[Vm-dev] Why OpenSmalltalk/vm not googlable and not searchable on GitHub?

[Dimitris Chloupis]

Github wont give you automagically visibility, there 2 criteria you have to
satisfy

1) you have to contribute some code in smalltalk so it appears as smalltalk
2) you have to add a sensible description that mentions smalltalk in some
way

The VM satisfies neither of those 2 criteria hence its not visible as
Smalltalk but it is visible as C project.

By the way if you want find smalltalk projects , enter the words relevant
to your search and then add

 language:Smalltalk

this will force to Github to search projects that either contain Smalltalk
source files or that mention in the description

you can also use the explore feature of github to see which Smalltalk
projects are trending

https://github.com/trending/smalltalk

So as you can see yes the visibility is crystal clear for those that want
to find Smalltalk projects.

Its easy, its simple and its fast.

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 1:47 PM Ben Coman <btc at openinworld.com> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Dimitris Chloupis
> <kilon.alios at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ah ok i see now, actually you will get empty results in the search
> because github searches for repo first
> >
> > openSmalltalk is not the name of a repo its the name of the user so you
> have to click to user and it will it to you
> >
> > so its both found by google and github
>
> Ahh. Thats quite an insight that I hadn't noticed before.  Also the
> first 8 results searching github for "vm" are 8 different projects.
> One of the reasons for moving to github is get more visibility.  I'm
> afraid like this that we'll be lost in the noise.
>
> Actually when I made my fork of the repo, I'd noticed the project
> seemed to lose its identity as...
>     https://github.com/bencoman/vm
> but I didn't worry to much about it since "I" knew what it was.  But
> confusion in the public arena on github is more serious.
>
> Since its still quite early days on github, can I ask consideration be
> given to renaming the repo so we have...
>     https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm
>     https://github.com/bencoman/opensmalltalk-vm
> That it will show up in both searches for "smalltalk" and "vm"
> I think this is important to getting the most long term value out git &
> github.
>
> cheers -ben
>
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:35 PM Phil (list) <pbpublist at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 11:05 +0200, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe I am super stupid. But I just tried to find new GitHub
> >> > repository for VM and I can't.
> >> > Of course I found it here but Google and GitHub not show me any
> >> > results.
> >> > At least GitHub surprised me. Is anything correct with repo settings?
> >>
> >> Searching for 'OpenSmalltalk' got me the GitHub repo as the 3rd result
> >> with Google.  Since it's a new repo, perhaps it's still being added to
> >> the indexes and/or propagating out through their infrastructure and/or
> >> their algorithms are still deciding where it fits in the search
> >> results?  GitHub can also take several days before new projects can be
> >> found via their search.
> >
> >
>
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