[Vm-dev] Why OpenSmalltalk/vm not googlable and not searchable on GitHub?

[Ben Coman]

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Ben Coman <btc at openinworld.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Ben Coman <btc at openinworld.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Dimitris Chloupis
> > <kilon.alios at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ah ok i see now, actually you will get empty results in the search
> because github searches for repo first
> >>
> >> openSmalltalk is not the name of a repo its the name of the user so you
> have to click to user and it will it to you
> >>
> >> so its both found by google and github
> >
> > Ahh. Thats quite an insight that I hadn't noticed before.  Also the
> > first 8 results searching github for "vm" are 8 different projects.
> > One of the reasons for moving to github is get more visibility.  I'm
> > afraid like this that we'll be lost in the noise.
> >
> > Actually when I made my fork of the repo, I'd noticed the project
> > seemed to lose its identity as...
> >     https://github.com/bencoman/vm
> > but I didn't worry to much about it since "I" knew what it was.  But
> > confusion in the public arena on github is more serious.
> >
> > Since its still quite early days on github, can I ask consideration be
> > given to renaming the repo so we have...
> >     https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm
> >     https://github.com/bencoman/opensmalltalk-vm
> > That it will show up in both searches for "smalltalk" and "vm"
> > I think this is important to getting the most long term value out git &
> github.
>

If OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm is considered too unwieldly,
some alternatives could be:
* OpenSmalltalk/osvm  (this has a single conflicting exact match on github
[last updated 4 years ago], and a four substring matches)
* OpenSmalltalk/ostvm (for which github return no results)

The reason I suggest this is the old real estate adage "location, location,
location"
has a corollary these days with internet search of "uniqueness, uniqueness,
uniqueness".
Then again, its only a small thing and there is plenty of other important
things to do.

cheers -ben

Github help pages indicate existing infrastructure should continue to
> work to the old name, easing the transition.
> https://help.github.com/articles/renaming-a-repository/
>
> For authorised users, this should link where the rename can be done..
> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/vm/settings
>
> cheers -ben
>
> >
> > cheers -ben
> >
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:35 PM Phil (list) <pbpublist at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 11:05 +0200, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi.
> >>> >
> >>> > Maybe I am super stupid. But I just tried to find new GitHub
> >>> > repository for VM and I can't.
> >>> > Of course I found it here but Google and GitHub not show me any
> >>> > results.
> >>> > At least GitHub surprised me. Is anything correct with repo settings?
> >>>
> >>> Searching for 'OpenSmalltalk' got me the GitHub repo as the 3rd result
> >>> with Google.  Since it's a new repo, perhaps it's still being added to
> >>> the indexes and/or propagating out through their infrastructure and/or
> >>> their algorithms are still deciding where it fits in the search
> >>> results?  GitHub can also take several days before new projects can be
> >>> found via their search.
> >>
> >>
>
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