[Vm-dev] We need help from VM experts. Re: Freeze after Morph Activity

Juan Vuletich JuanVuletich at zoho.com
Sun Feb 5 19:09:39 UTC 2017


Hi Folks,

It seems we found a problem in Spur-64 on Linux. Eliot & VM developers 
and experts, please, we need your help.

Cuis users have been experiencing this problem since we started using 
Spur-64. At random times, the image just stops working. No Smalltalk 
process is run, and the VM needs to be killed from the OS.

In my experience, most of the time it takes several hours for the 
problem to happen. Dan found a simple way to make it happen rather 
quickly. No FFI is involved, just pretty basic Smalltalk. I can confirm 
that the problem does not happen using Spur-32 on the same platform.

Thanks,

On 30/01/2017 10:35 p.m., Dan Norton wrote:
>
> Attached is a few lines of code which can reproduce the problem. File 
> it in then do:
>
> Tokenish start
>
> in a Cuis workspace. You may have to let it run for a while, the time 
> to failure is not predictable. Starting multiples of them may bring 
> the freeze sooner.
>
>  - Dan
>
>
> On 01/30/2017 04:23 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>   
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Dan Norton <dnorton at mindspring.com 
>> <mailto:dnorton at mindspring.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     When a freeze occurs, it's usually(tm) during an animation,
>>     probably because the movement of an ellipse is done in small
>>     increments of 92 per hop. This is within a block like so:
>>
>>
>>     self when: #morphicStep evaluate: [ :delta | <movement> ].
>>
>>     self startSteppingStepTime: step.
>>
>>     How can the breakpoint be set in this block for gdb? We need
>>     source for some C module.
>>
>>
>> With gdb you can't debug at the Smalltalk level (that's what alt-. is 
>> for). You can only attach to the process, break into it and figure 
>> out what's going on. Which may be very hard. Also, you may have to 
>> compile your own VM with debug info (or do we have pre-built ones 
>> somewhrere?)
>>
>> - Bert -
>


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