[Vm-dev] Call for big benchmarks

Javier Pimás elpochodelagente at gmail.com
Thu Mar 23 17:26:12 UTC 2017


On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Hi Tim,
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Tim Felgentreff <timfelgentreff at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Yes, big benchmarks would be nice. Those on speed.squeak.org or in
>> VMMaker are all somewhat small.
>>
>> Note the Ruby community, for example, has benchmarks such as a NES
>> emulator (optcarrot) that can run for a few thousand frames with predefined
>> input as benchmarks. It's definitely possible.
>>
>> Maybe some of the projects from HPI students could be made to work, there
>> was a Chip8 emulator in Squeak, for example, that seems big enough. Or
>> maybe the DCPU emulator at github.com/fniephaus/BroDCPU without a frame
>> limit would work as a decent CPU bound benchmark.
>>
>
> I've discussed with Clément doing something like cloning the Opal
> compiler, or the Squeak compiler, so that it uses a fixed set of classes
> that won't change over time, excepting the collections, and using as a
> benchmark this compiler recompiling all its own methods.  This is a nice
> mix of string processing (in the tokenizer) and symbolic processing (in the
> building and optimizing of the parse tree).
>

Also nice, count on me for helping!

> Cross - dialect could be hard. Pharo and Squeak are fairly easy to do, but
>> with larger programs staying compatible across different dialects is harder.
>>
>
> Again, extracting a compiler from its host system would make it possible
> to maintain a cross-platform version.  It could be left as an exercise to
> the reader to port it to one's favorite non-Smalltalk dynamic language.
>

> tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> schrieb am Mi., 22. März 2017, 21:40:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On 21-03-2017, at 4:53 PM, Javier Pimás <elpochodelagente at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi everybody! While measuring performance I usually face the problem
>>> of assessing performance.
>>>
>>> Have you tried the benchmarks package - CogBenchmarks - included in the
>>> source.squeak.org/VMMaker repository?
>>>
>>> tim
>>> --
>>> tim Rowledge; tim at rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
>>> Strange OpCodes: BOMB: Burn Out Memory Banks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> _,,,^..^,,,_
> best, Eliot
>
>


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Javier Pimás
Ciudad de Buenos Aires
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