[Vm-dev] Old Things

Stuart Cassoff aa72 at bell.net
Sat Jan 20 02:05:45 UTC 2018


Grr! Some messages from vm-dev this lovely web interface will only open as attachments and I can't reply to them so this is a reply to Eliot.

Thanks for your reply.
This is really great, getting these bits of the puzzle in place.

"Qwaq (then Teleplace and now Terf)" 
My head asplodes.

"Sista"
I've watched a couple of vids about it. Exciting.

"See https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/graphs/contributors"
Hey, I'm there, too! Finally. Hangin' with the cool crowd.


Thanks all. I really appreciate this.

Stu


> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Stuart Cassoff <aa72 at bell.net>
> Date: January 19, 2018 at 8:53 PM
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> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org>
> > Date: January 19, 2018 at 8:31 PM
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> > Hi Stuart
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> Hi Tim, thanks for your reply.
> 
> > > On 19-01-2018, at 5:21 PM, Stuart Cassoff <aa72 at bell.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I believe these statements are correct, please let me know otherwise:
> > > 
> > > - People were enthusiastic about Exupery ten years ago but it's dead now.
> > 
> > Exupery was an interesting attempt at making an in-image bytecode to machine code translator. I did show some working function but got dropped for whatever reason.
> > 
> > > 
> > > - muO is current and worth having in a collection of images.
> > 
> > I think this is correct. It does some pretty cool music stuff.
> > 
> > > 
> > > - The recent ver 5 release of EToys from the EToys site is the one to use and not the 2016 6.0alpha on files.squeak.org.
> > 
> > Almost certainly. 6.0 is in alpha and sometimes bites you.
> > 
> > > 
> > > - (from memory) Spoon became Cog which is now in Squeak.
> > 
> > Ooh, gosh, no. Spoon and Cog are wildly different. Craig will almost certainly be happy to point you to good places to read about Spoon, which is at least in part an attack on making incredibly small image files with the ability to load extra objects (including code, of course) at need. Cog is the dynamic translation system that makes Squeak so fast.
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> Ok, yes. As I said, from memory.  :) I just went back to the Spoon site to refresh my memory. Ok Spoon is now Context and I've read a bit about it already although I don't see activity after 2015.
> 
> Whew, there's a lot to learn, like from fileIn's to Metacello.
> Again, I'm not complaining, just recounting a bit of my experience learning Smalltalk from zero.
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> 
> Stu


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