[Vm-dev] Blocking inappropriate posts to vm-dev (was: VM build questions from last board meeting)

[Jan Barger]

https://www.cadence.com/

2018-03-30 8:12 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:

> Giga scale, giga hertz, washed SoCs
>
> 2018-03-30 7:17 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:
>
>> GAME OVER :)
>>
>> One pair of my smelly socs ws  giga-scale, giga-hertz SoCs
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>> 2018-03-30 5:26 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:
>>
>>>
>>>> Much of the stability issues are not related to speed but to the
>>>> conversion to 64-bits,
>>>>
>>>
>>> What i see on Eliot web pages are these most often occured words:
>>>
>>> fast     ( cogblog )
>>> double its speed      ( VW )
>>> chip design support  ( hic current company )
>>>
>>> But, where are the nice and beutiful high ideas like these from Allan
>>> Kay and others?
>>> Where are final simlicity and usability?
>>>
>>> Sorry this Eliot thinking and programming style ( assembler like
>>> thinking and supit overoptimizations ) is leading to some kind of all
>>> asociated programmers hell ...
>>> COG, SPUR whatewer next - he is the number 1. in Open VM and it seems
>>> nobody else is care about where it leads and how to change it
>>>
>>> which is *critical* for our community since over time modern operating
>>>> systems are making it harder to run 32-bit applications.  A lot of the
>>>> complexity is probably in the Cog-JIT, so perhaps StackInterpreter build of
>>>> the VM would provide the balance of stability and speed you desire (@All,
>>>> how would you rate that option?)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe i will try anything where Eliot is not putting his hands.
>>>
>>>
>>>> btw, again I ask...
>>>> 1. Which OS version were you running Pharo on?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Pharo 6.1 on Debian Linux
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2. Were you running 32-bit or 64-bit Pharo?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Both version, old images and vm work OK
>>>
>>>
>>>> 3. Which links did you download Pharo from?  i.e. what is the
>>>> version/date of both VM and Image?   Often we can advise that specific
>>>> VM/Image has a known bug that has since been fixed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://pharo.org/web/download
>>>
>>>
>>> I will try squeak, and then give you my opinion. But i preffer Pharo for
>>> Seaside support and style and more proffesional look of webpage and
>>> previous good images and vms.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jan.
>>> www.mageo.club
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>> --
>> Ing. Jan Barger
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>> www.barnet.sk
>> www.napri.sk
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> Ing. Jan Barger
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