[Vm-dev] How to create headless VM without some primitives?

Robert robert.withers at pm.me
Tue Apr 14 22:11:00 UTC 2020

This is interesting to me, both the minimal image and running in 
SqueakJS (how's that?) and loading ProCrypto-1-1-1 and ThunkStack and 
ParrotTalk, for now. I am currently consumed inside my port of SSL over 
to ThunkStack. I would love to have a link to your minimal image. Is it 


On 4/14/20 3:32 PM, Erik Stel wrote:
> Tim,
> I agree, the effort to save bytes should not be too high.
> If someone has some input/experience on using container technology to
> limit/sandbox the environment I'm happy to hear about it. Using the
> 'default' headless VM would be very beneficial wrt not having to maintain
> and build custom VM's.
> A bit off topic, but I'm starting with a tiny image because of my use case:
> I'm actually starting with a very small image. Currently I have an image of
> 150Kb which has basic classes (*) to gets things going and a WebSocket
> class. Another Smalltalk image can send messages to the tiny image to get
> performed and the tiny can send events back. With this mechanism additional
> classes and methods are installed. Depending on what is installed the image
> can stay relative small. The tiny image is based on PharoCandle (see
> https://github.com/carolahp/PharoCandleSrc). The image currently runs inside
> a browser using SqueakJS (and thereby becomes a Javascript-engine
> replacement) or it runs as a NodeJS application. Pretty experimental still.
> I would like to use this same image as the base for the cloud instances. And
> probably use it for running on Raspberry Pi's as well (for users which do
> not have or want to use the cloud). IF experiments do work out as currently
> 'planned' ;-).
> (*) Strings, Numbers, Collections, Process stuff (i.e. no compiler, methods
> are installed using bytecode)
> Regards,
> Erik
> --
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