[Vm-dev] [squeak-dev] Condensing sources for a new release

Tue Feb 11 19:02:30 UTC 2020

Hi Tobias,

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:29 AM Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:

>
>
> This is mac's sandboxing/AppTranslocation.
>
> You must:
> a) unzip the zip (if it is one) or open the .dmg
> b) Move the App to somewhere that is _not_ the Downloads folder
> c) only _then_ open the .app
>
> Otherwise translocation will happen and you cannot do anything useful.
>

I had done just that.  What I did (exactly) is:

- downloaded Squeak5.3beta-19337-64bit-All-in-One.zip
<http://files.squeak.org/trunk/Squeak5.3beta-19337-64bit/Squeak5.3beta-19337-64bit-All-in-One.zip>
 from http://files.squeak.org/trunk/Squeak5.3beta-19337-64bit/ (to my
Downloads folder)
- moved the app to my oscogvm/image folder (oscogvm is my working
opensmalltalk-vm git repository)
- issued the command via a terminal
    $ cd oscogvm/image
    $ open
Squeak5.3beta-19337-64bit-All-in-One/Squeak5.3beta-19337-64bit-All-in-One.app/

And if launched like that it still gets run in the AppTranslocation SNAFU.

> -t
>
> > On 11.02.2020, at 18:12, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi David, Hi Bert, Paul, Craig, Chris & Fabio (authors of the squeak
> start script),
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 6:48 AM David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>
> wrote:
> > Update - I resolved my library problem, and can run the traced image.
> > However, it opens with an empty black window (but no VM crash or error
> > messages).
> >
> > This is nothing to do with the conversion.  It is just an inability to
> write to the changes, and in fact looks like a show stopper for the Mac.
> When I open the Mac .app bundle on macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 it gives this
> error message:
> >
> > Squeak cannot write to the changes file named
> /private/var/folders/1m/5bw4gx414j95y7gmn19bcrvc0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/AF936F9C-D399-44BA-A75D-2B6B530BE339/d/Squeak5.3beta-19337-64bit-All-in-One.app/Contents/Resources/Squeak5.3beta-19337-6
> >
>
>
> > Please check you have write permission for this file.
> >
> > You won't be able to save this image correctly until you fix this.
> >
> >
> > So we can't (yet) lunch the release out-of-the-box on Mac.  This
> launching things in a translocated folder is (bad) news to me.  How are we
> supposed to establish write permission?  If the image explicitly tries to
> change permissions it will transgress on valid attempt to make the changes
> file read-only.  And anyway the files look readable when one uses ls to
> read permissions:
> >
> > $ ls -l
> /private/var/folders/1m/5bw4gx414j95y7gmn19bcrvc0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/AF936F9C-D399-44BA-A75D-2B6B530BE339/d/Squeak5.3beta-19337-64bit-All-in-One.app/Contents/Resources/
> > total 191096
> > drwxr-xr-x@  3 eliot  staff        96 Feb 11  2020
> B3DAcceleratorPlugin.bundle
> > drwxr-xr-x@  3 eliot  staff        96 Feb 11  2020 CameraPlugin.bundle
> > drwxr-xr-x@  3 eliot  staff        96 Feb 11  2020 CroquetPlugin.bundle
> > drwxr-xr-x@  5 eliot  staff       160 Feb 11  2020 English.lproj
> > drwxr-xr-x@  3 eliot  staff        96 Feb 11  2020 Mpeg3Plugin.bundle
> > -rw-r--r--@  1 eliot  staff    334260 Feb 11  2020 Squeak.icns
> > drwxr-xr-x@  3 eliot  staff        96 Feb 11  2020 Squeak3D.bundle
> > -rw-r--r--@  1 eliot  staff  17502632 Feb 11  2020
> Squeak5.3beta-19337-64bit.changes
> > -rw-r--r--@  1 eliot  staff  44108920 Feb 11  2020
> Squeak5.3beta-19337-64bit.image
> > -rwxr-xr-x@  1 eliot  staff     55656 Feb 11  2020 SqueakChanges.icns
> > drwxr-xr-x@  3 eliot  staff        96 Feb 11  2020 SqueakFFIPrims.bundle
> > -rwxr-xr-x@  1 eliot  staff     52976 Feb 11  2020 SqueakGeneric.icns
> > -rwxr-xr-x@  1 eliot  staff    334260 Feb 11  2020 SqueakImage.icns
> > -rwxr-xr-x@  1 eliot  staff     61719 Feb 11  2020 SqueakPlugin.icns
> > -rwxr-xr-x@  1 eliot  staff     63636 Feb 11  2020 SqueakProject.icns
> > drwxr-xr-x@  3 eliot  staff        96 Feb 11  2020 SqueakSSL.bundle
> > -rwxr-xr-x@  1 eliot  staff     63636 Feb 11  2020 SqueakScript.icns
> > -rwxr-xr-x@  1 eliot  staff     55332 Feb 11  2020 SqueakSources.icns
> > -rw-r--r--@  1 eliot  staff  35184983 Feb 11  2020 SqueakV50.sources
> > drwxr-xr-x@  3 eliot  staff        96 Feb 11  2020
> UnixOSProcessPlugin.bundle
> > drwxr-xr-x@ 58 eliot  staff      1856 Feb 11  2020 locale
> > drwxr-xr-x@  9 eliot  staff       288 Feb 11  2020 release-notes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The image that I converted was Squeak5.3beta-19335-64bit.image. I'll
> > try some others later.
> >
> > Meanwhile if anyone else can give this a try, please do :-)
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 09:09:53AM -0500, David T. Lewis wrote:
> > > I need some help on this, can someone please test the converted 32-bit
> > > image on Linux and/or Windows? I'm have problems with my 32-bit
> libraries
> > > (I think) and I don't have any time to follow up on it today. Thanks!
> > >
> > > The actual image conversion seems to work fine, and it's fast. But I
> > > don't have a 32-bit VM at the moment, probably due to Linux runtime
> > > library issues that I don't have time to sort out this morning.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 08:47:34PM -0500, David T. Lewis wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 08:48:49AM -0800, Eliot Miranda wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi David, Hi Release Manager, Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:03 PM David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A 64-bit to 32-bit image converter would be a very good thing to
> have
> > > > > > in our toolkit :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > I got this working this morning.  See Cog-eem.398.  So to use,
> > > > > - clone or update an opensmalltalk-vm repository
> > > > > - cd to the image directory and create a VMMaker image via either
> > > > > buildspurtrunkvmmaker64image.sh or buildspurtrunkvmmakerimage.sh
> > > > > - run a converter, e.g.
> > > > >     Spur32to64BitImageConverter new bootstrapImage: 'trunk6'.
> > > > >  (produces trunk6-64.image & trunk6-64.changes)
> > > > >     Spur64to32BitImageConverter new bootstrapImage: 'trunk6-64'.
> > > > > (produces trunk6-64-32.image & trunk6-64-32.changes)
> > > > >
> > > > > Converting a 28Mb 64-bit image into a 22Mb 32-bit image takes 9
> seconds on
> > > > > my 2.9GHz Core i9 MacBook Pro
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So let's try releasing by converting the 64-bit image into a
> 32-bit one.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bravo! I am away now but will try doing an image conversion as soon
> as
> > > > I can tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Eliot,
> > > >
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-- 
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best, Eliot
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