Hi folks,
It's nice to see that you already dived into the work. Thanks!
I'm sending this as a starting point to get a working team structure.
Roll call --------- As of this moment, there are four of us in this team:
- Giovanni Corriga - Giovanni Giorgi - Klaus D. Witzel - Ron Teitelbaum
plus Ken Causey which acts as the board sponsor.
Tasks ----- Until we get the hang of the thing, we should concentrate just on the task of publishing The Weekly Squeak. Later we can expand to other tasks, like managing the announcements mailing list (soon to be announced), and pushing article to Slashdot-like sites.
The Weekly Squeak ----------------- While the community has welcomed the Weekly Squeak news-zine, there are still some problems with it. I'll list them by priority:
- editor backup: at the moment, I'm the only one editing TWS, with Giovanni Giorgi taking care of the interviews. This mean that I'm a single point of failure _and_ a bottleneck for TWS: if I'm busy, I can't add items to the work page. So I have to rush on Sunday afternoon to get the new issue out.
- TWS lateness: as a result of me being alone, each TWS issue is now published 8 days after the week it should report on (that is, the TWS for the week from Oct 2nd to Oct 8th will be out on Oct 16). I'd like to reduce it to 1 or 2 days at most.
- Articles and Columns: right now, TWS has just a news section. The first interview has been published as an item in that section, but I'd like to move it to it own section. I'd also like to add more columns: - more indepth articles, like the one Ron posted earlier. - more technical or historical articles - stuff like Mantis bug count, most active SqueakPeople projects, etc.
- the mailing lists: ideally, TWS should be an universal news source for all Squeak-related activites. This means monitoring many mailing lists, (including Croquet's, Seaside's and the lists/discuss.sqf mailing lists), blogs, newsgroups and websites. At the moment the only mailing lists actively monitored are squeak-dev, smallwiki and squeakland.
- the publishing site: I don't like publishing on the Swiki too much; I'd prefer publishing TWS somewhere else, and use the Swiki just as a backup.
Proposed solutions ------------------ Here is a proposal which I'd like to discuss with you. It's a work model that should solve some of the current issues.
During each week, everyone adds news items to TWS' work page ( http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/5752 ). The one item posted by Klaus is a good example. After the week has ended, the editor will go through the items in the work page, adding/editing/deleting as needed, then publish the new edition as an article on SqueakPeople. If we can split the work, It won't take much time for any of us, and so we can prepare a better and quicker TWS. This process should start with TWS issue #8 (October 9th-15th)
Articles and interviews will be first posted here, so that we can discuss them and decide how and when to publish them. We'll discuss other issues when the need arises.
Roles ----- So, here's a list of roles which should be filled, and a proposal:
editor: Giovanni C. plus backup when needed interviews: Giovanni G. articles: Klaus, Ron news items: Giovanni C., Giovanni G., Klaus, Ron.
Again, this is just a proposal. I'd like to hear your opinion on this.
Giovanni
News Team,
the proposal matches my expectation, with focus on what to now to get a team effort started and ideas into future directions. I'm also happy with the working page approach, better than replying to emails and web pages are accessible even when I'm in Bellaria in a beach bar :)
W.r.t. http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/5752 (which is down at the moment) how is that with multi user updates, anything we should now?
Last but not lesat, was there already something from the sponsor, i.e. is News Team offical?
/Klaus
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:31:47 +0200, Giovanni Corriga giovanni@corriga.net wrote:
Hi folks,
It's nice to see that you already dived into the work. Thanks!
I'm sending this as a starting point to get a working team structure.
Roll call
As of this moment, there are four of us in this team:
- Giovanni Corriga
- Giovanni Giorgi
- Klaus D. Witzel
- Ron Teitelbaum
plus Ken Causey which acts as the board sponsor.
Tasks
Until we get the hang of the thing, we should concentrate just on the task of publishing The Weekly Squeak. Later we can expand to other tasks, like managing the announcements mailing list (soon to be announced), and pushing article to Slashdot-like sites.
The Weekly Squeak
While the community has welcomed the Weekly Squeak news-zine, there are still some problems with it. I'll list them by priority:
- editor backup: at the moment, I'm the only one editing TWS, with
Giovanni Giorgi taking care of the interviews. This mean that I'm a single point of failure _and_ a bottleneck for TWS: if I'm busy, I can't add items to the work page. So I have to rush on Sunday afternoon to get the new issue out.
- TWS lateness: as a result of me being alone, each TWS issue is now
published 8 days after the week it should report on (that is, the TWS for the week from Oct 2nd to Oct 8th will be out on Oct 16). I'd like to reduce it to 1 or 2 days at most.
- Articles and Columns: right now, TWS has just a news section. The
first interview has been published as an item in that section, but I'd like to move it to it own section. I'd also like to add more columns:
more indepth articles, like the one Ron posted earlier.
more technical or historical articles
stuff like Mantis bug count, most active SqueakPeople projects, etc.
the mailing lists: ideally, TWS should be an universal news source for
all Squeak-related activites. This means monitoring many mailing lists, (including Croquet's, Seaside's and the lists/discuss.sqf mailing lists), blogs, newsgroups and websites. At the moment the only mailing lists actively monitored are squeak-dev, smallwiki and squeakland.
- the publishing site: I don't like publishing on the Swiki too much;
I'd prefer publishing TWS somewhere else, and use the Swiki just as a backup.
Proposed solutions
Here is a proposal which I'd like to discuss with you. It's a work model that should solve some of the current issues.
During each week, everyone adds news items to TWS' work page ( http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/5752 ). The one item posted by Klaus is a good example. After the week has ended, the editor will go through the items in the work page, adding/editing/deleting as needed, then publish the new edition as an article on SqueakPeople. If we can split the work, It won't take much time for any of us, and so we can prepare a better and quicker TWS. This process should start with TWS issue #8 (October 9th-15th)
Articles and interviews will be first posted here, so that we can discuss them and decide how and when to publish them. We'll discuss other issues when the need arises.
Roles
So, here's a list of roles which should be filled, and a proposal:
editor: Giovanni C. plus backup when needed interviews: Giovanni G. articles: Klaus, Ron news items: Giovanni C., Giovanni G., Klaus, Ron.
Again, this is just a proposal. I'd like to hear your opinion on this.
Giovanni
News mailing list News@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/news
Il giorno ven, 14/10/2005 alle 16.01 +0200, Klaus D. Witzel ha scritto:
News Team,
the proposal matches my expectation, with focus on what to now to get a team effort started and ideas into future directions. I'm also happy with the working page approach, better than replying to emails and web pages are accessible even when I'm in Bellaria in a beach bar :)
W.r.t. http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/5752 (which is down at the moment) how is that with multi user updates, anything we should now?
Not really. Just add your initials at the end of the items you add or edit, so that we know who's done what.
Last but not lesat, was there already something from the sponsor, i.e. is News Team offical?
Well, since we have our own mailing list, I think it's official enough :)
Giovanni
On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 16:11 +0200, Giovanni Corriga wrote:
Il giorno ven, 14/10/2005 alle 16.01 +0200, Klaus D. Witzel ha scritto:
Last but not lesat, was there already something from the sponsor, i.e. is News Team offical?
Well, since we have our own mailing list, I think it's official enough :)
Yes, 'officalizing' new teams is a rather impromptu affair at this point. Unless there is some controversy about a team then it is sufficient that one of the SqueakFoundation Board members volunteers as the team 'sponsor'. Also I've added your team to the list at
http://swiki.krampe.se/castaways/6
So maybe that will make things feel a little bit more official. ;)
By the way the information on this swiki is to be moved to www.squeak.org (at least most of it) eventually so don't be surprised if that site disappears.
Giovanni
News mailing list News@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/news
Giovanni: By the way you can shorten that URL to
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/news
if you like, /mailman/ is an alias for /cgi-bin/mailman/.
Ken
Ciao, I agree with your proposal. I am busy too in this week, so I can reply only now. I will publish here the list of people I'd lkie to interview. You can send to the list hints or people you like and I will take care of contacting them.
On 14/ott/05, at 15:31, Giovanni Corriga wrote:
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- the publishing site: I don't like publishing on the Swiki too much;
I'd prefer publishing TWS somewhere else, and use the Swiki just as a backup.
I have a small site hosted at my home: http://www.objectsroot.com I will be happy to host the TWS too and enable also a small form for every article. I can take care of moderating the forum for avoding spam or something like that. bye bye
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