News November 2006

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Interviews
by Ron Teitelbaum 28 Nov '06

28 Nov '06

All, I have two very big interviews that I'm doing right now for weeklysqueak. They are taking a very large amount of my time. One interview has 5 different participants. Both are very interesting. The long and short of it is that I really don't have much more time to spare. I was posing lots of smaller articles. Now I think I've swung too far in the other direction. Guess I'll have to try to find a happy middle somewhere. I expect that it will take at least a few more weeks before these are finished and posted. If anyone has time to do some postings that would be great! Ron

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Google AdWords campaign targeting http://www.squeak.org
by Klaus D. Witzel 24 Nov '06

24 Nov '06

Hi folks, I've just started a $$ Google AdWords campaign and would like to receive feedback when you see www.squeak.org appearing in a Goole ad (wording, ad position, whatever your impression, please let me know). I would appreciate if you DO*NOT*CLICK*THE*AD, because it costs me $$ per click, but if you cannot resist feel free to do so ;-) /Klaus

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Re: Groklaw article on Squeak
by Giovanni Corriga 19 Nov '06

19 Nov '06

Il giorno sab, 18/11/2006 alle 14.30 -0700, Nevin Pratt ha scritto: > I think this is of general interest to all Squeakers: > > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061118091048997 A thank you to our Ron and to the Groklaw crew is in order, since the link to Ron's article made the Weekly Squeak blog almost touch the 2000 hits per day. Giovanni

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Fwd: Re: Common Smalltalk VM Summit
by Klaus D. Witzel 16 Nov '06

16 Nov '06

Hi list, looks like there's not the hoped-for response and enthusiasm for defining an unofficial Smalltalk-2007 specification as a base for all the Smalltalk(-ish) VM's. But perhaps it's too early to say such (hopefully). Nevertheless, it may be worth a headline, "Unofficial Smalltalk-2007 specification?" :) /Klaus ---- Forwarded Usenet-message ---- From: "Alex Perez" <aperez(a)alexperez.com> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.exupery Subject: Re: Common Smalltalk VM Summit Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:00:02 +0100 URL: news://<455AF332.8080200(a)alexperez.com> David Griswold wrote: > Hi everybody, > Dan Ingalls and I have been talking, trying to figure out what to do > about > the major opportunity offered by the recent release of the Strongtalk > virtual machine as open source. It seems you've come up with an excellent plan of attack, and I'm glad to see people really trying to make this happen. I had the thought independently less than a week ago, after evaluating a dozen Smalltalk VM's for a potential commercial project. > Rather than keep this discussion to ourselves, our thinking was that > this > would be the perfect time to call a kind of summit, with representatives > of > all the major Smalltalk implementations, both open-source and commercial. > The topic: what if we could build a shared high-performance open-source > platform suitable for hosting a number of different Smalltalk systems, > one > that we can all share and work on together? It sounds like a worthy goal, and I'm surprised nobody else has responded to this message. This sounds like a great first step, although I had also had the thought that *maybe* it would be possible to get an unofficial Smalltalk-2007 specification, which would be a very clear unofficial (but community-supported, since all interested parties would have a stake and hand in writing the specification) revision to the de-facto Smalltalk-80 standard and/or ANSI Smalltalk standard. > While the details of the type-feedback techniques used in the > Strongtalk VM > are arcane, the benefits are not: *much* higher performance for general > Smalltalk code. Dan, myself, and many others who know about > type-feedback > and the pioneering Self system, have been dreaming for many years about > the > possibility that someday this technology might make it into mainstream > Smalltalk VMs. It would take Smalltalk performance to a whole new level. Which I'd love to see. On a somewhat-related but tangential note, has anybody done any experimental porting of Exupery to ARM (ARM11, specifically) CPUs? > That someday is here now, if the different factions within the Smalltalk > community can pull together a little bit so that we don't miss this > opportunity. As a developer interested in using Smalltalk in a commercial product, this would be greatly beneficial to not only myself, but surely many others as well. > There may be debate within the community about some aspects of the > Strongtalk project, for example the type system, but we should all be > able > to agree on the simple idea that a whole lot more performance would be a > Good Thing. Now a huge performance gift has suddenly shown up on our > doorstep. > The last thing Smalltalk needs is another incompatible implementation. > The > splintering of Smalltalk implementations has dispersed the huge amount of > talent and effort needed to build, port, maintain, and extend a really > good > virtual-machine. Alone, this is a problem for each of us. Together, a > really good, super-fast type-feedback VM is for the first time within > reach. Agreed! And the BSD license is quite permissive and flexible, to boot. > I would like to invite the smart people out there who know and care most > about the various Smalltalk virtual machines, to join Dan and I in a > fairly > focused discussion about this starting tomorrow (Thursday, PST) on the > Strongtalk discussion group, at > http://groups.google.com/group/strongtalk-general. I will be out of the > country for 6 weeks starting Wed the 11th, so I would like to propose > that > we try to go back and forth about this a few times by the end of Friday, > so > we can think about this over the weekend, and maybe come up with a > proposed > general course of action by the middle of next week, so we all have > something to think about until my return. I'm looking forward to it. > Let's not lose this opportunity. > Cheers, > Dave

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Scratch beta version is available for download
by Matthias Berth 08 Nov '06

08 Nov '06

Hello, I dont know if you covered this already: http://weblogs.media.mit.edu/llk/scratch/archives/2006/10/ Scratch is a new programming language that lets you create your own animations, games, and interactive art. Scratch will be available for public release later this year. Scratch is based on squeak, although there is apparently no way to reach through to the smalltalk core of it. About: http://weblogs.media.mit.edu/llk/scratch/about.html Have a look at the getting strated guide http://weblogs.media.mit.edu/llk/scratch/gettingstarted.html Matthias

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Re: News Report for October, 2006
by Giovanni Corriga 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

Il giorno ven, 03/11/2006 alle 09.56 +0100, Matthias Berth ha scritto: > On 11/2/06, Giovanni Corriga <giovanni(a)corriga.net> wrote: > > Il giorno gio, 02/11/2006 alle 09.19 +0100, Matthias Berth ha scritto: > > > Hi Giovanni, > > > > > > > > > you're doing a great service with the weekly squeak, Thank You! > > > > > > Here is a little news item for you, from the Squeakland list: > > > > Hi Matthias, > > > > thanks for the item! I've already published it on the blog. > > > > Would you be interested in collaborating with us? It would be nice to > > add the Squeakland mailing list to out roster. > > I'm sorry, but I can't really commit to this. I'm using googlemail to > follow all the squeak lists, but it may well be that I wont have the > time to do this during the next weeks / months. I guess I can give > ahint like the one above from time to tme, but not give "coverage" of > the squeakland list, sorry. Oh, too bad that you can't join us. But we'll welcome any further hints that you may want to send us. Speaking of which, would you mind subscribing to the news mailing list anyway? This way the hints you may send can be published either by me or by the other editors of the blog. Ciao, Giovanni

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Link: Second Life and Croquet compared
by Matthias Berth 03 Nov '06

03 Nov '06

http://www.hitoro.net/squeak/2006/10/other-second-life.html

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Re: News Report for October, 2006
by Giovanni Corriga 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

Il giorno gio, 02/11/2006 alle 09.19 +0100, Matthias Berth ha scritto: > Hi Giovanni, > > > you're doing a great service with the weekly squeak, Thank You! > > Here is a little news item for you, from the Squeakland list: Hi Matthias, thanks for the item! I've already published it on the blog. Would you be interested in collaborating with us? It would be nice to add the Squeakland mailing list to out roster. Ciao, Giovanni

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News Report for October, 2006
by Giovanni Corriga 01 Nov '06

01 Nov '06

The purpose of the News team is to publish news regarding Squeak development and use. It aims to provide a service to the Squeak community, highlighting anything which the Squeak users may find interesting in The Weekly Squeak newszine. It will also try to promote Squeak outside its own community, by submitting articles and news items to mainstream websites such as Slashdot and OSNews. October has been the first month during which we were fully operational. The Weekly Squeak blog ( http://weeklysqueak.wordpress.com ) is now getting more than 400 views per day, with a peak of slightly more than 1500. The RSS2 feed gets ~50 reads per day. The increase in viewers is due to the greater number of articles posted to the blog, and to the fact that a couple of articles have appeared on reddit.com . Also, we're starting getting referrals from sites such as lambda-the-ultimate.org and redhanded.hobix.com, that have a greater audience. Michael Haupt has joined the News team after a call for help on the beginners mailing list. Michael is responsible for the weekly summaries that get sent to the lists every monday. http://news.squeak.org now redirects to the blog. Most important open issues: 1. We still can't manage to get at least one post per day. But we're improving. 2. There's some stuff (post editing/deletion after publication, comment moderation) for which we should define some policies. The actions scheduled for October were: 1. Try to add one or two posts to the blog everyday. 50% completed. 2. Resume production of weekly summaries to be sent to the mailing list(s). 100% completed. 3. Try to find some more contributors, and start tracking more mailing lists. 100% completed. Actions scheduled for November: 1. Post at least one item per day. 2. Add more mailing list (Squeakland and Croquet maybe?) 3. Improve integration with the main squeak.org site. Long term actions: 1. start producing articles to be sent to mainstream news sites. 2. move the blog to news.squeak.org maybe? 3. Guest bloggers? The News team has a mailing list (news at lists.squeakfoundation.org, subscribe at http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/news ). Everyone can subscribe to the list, even if just for lurking, but new team members are always welcome ;) Giovanni

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