Squeak-dev November 2007

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Box-Admins Team Report for October, 2007
by Ken Causey 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

The box-admins team is reponsible for seeing that the community shared server is maintained and setting up any new features to be hosted on that server. For October 2007: SqueakMap went down for a short time early in the month but was back up fairly quickly. In the middle of the month the Squeak Swiki also went down temporarily. Late in the month Box2 helped out with the torrent swarm hosting the videos Göran Krampe produced from the relevant BOFs at OOPSLA '07. I want to thank the community for the monetary support needed to fund the box and remind them that the bills continue to appear and that you can currently contribute to the hosting bills by going to http://www.squeak.org/Foundation/SupportSqueak/ and purchasing a Squeak badge. Note that a donation here may be used for other Squeak Foundation services including but not limited to development, development infrastructure, and promotion of Squeak. The services being hosted have continued to grow and include (but are not limited to): http://www.squeak.org/ SqueakMap - http://map.squeak.org/ http://ftp.squeak.org/ http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/ http://discuss.squeakfoundation.org/ http://source.squeakfoundation.org/ http://map.squeak.org/ https://svn.squeak.org/ http://update.squeakfoundation.org/ http://wiki.squeak.org/ http://bugs.squeak.org/ and DNS services for squeak.org and squeakfoundation.org domain names. Ken

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Development Tool
by Alejandro Gonzalez 09 Nov '07

09 Nov '07

Does anyone know what tool I can use to find all the duplicated code in a class hierarchy? Lint? what rule? Thanks in advance Alejandro

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Debugging a headless image
by Giovanni Corriga 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Hi all, I have a Pier image that I'd like to run on my corriga.net server. It works fine if I start it in a VNC session, but if I run it with the -headless option I can't connect to it. Do you have any hints on the possible cause or on how to debug it? Thanks, Giovanni

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Squeak packages for Debian Sarge?
by Giovanni Corriga 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Hi all, does anyone still have the Squeak packages for Debian Sarge? I can't find them anymore on ftp.squeak.org/debian . Would it be possible to put them back? Ciao, Giovanni

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squeak on ubuntu
by Alexander Lazarevic' 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Latest Ubuntu comes with compviz (3D window effects) enabled. Now one can look through most of the squeak window buttons (see screenshot). Any idea how this can be easily solved from within Squeak? Alex PS: povray seems to have a similar problem with its render window.

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File links in Unix VM broken?
by Andreas Raab 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Hi - I had an interesting problem today. I had created a directory with a plain file like /foo/bar/plainfile and then added a subdirectory with a relative link to that file: /foo/bar/baz/link -> ../plainfile The link would be listed in the the directory listing primitives but would fail to open (although bash and any other unix tool would work just fine with it). When I played around a little more I found that the VM was trying to open /foo/plainfile instead of /foo/bar/plainfile (placing a test file in the location confirmed that) so it seems as if the Unix file code doesn't deal correctly with "up links" (going one hop too many). Any ideas how to fix that? I can work around it easy enough now that I know it but it'd be good if the problem could be fixed in general. Cheers, - Andreas

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Squeak plug-in running within Leopard
by Mark Mayfield 08 Nov '07

08 Nov '07

Greetings... Is anyone have trouble running the Squeak plug-in within Leopard and Safari 3.0.4??? I just get a black region where the Squeak project should be. This is happening on both my upgraded laptops. Thanks, Mark Mayfield

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FUNSqueak wish a home for download
by Edgar J. De Cleene 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

I have a FUNSqueak3.10.1beta.7155.image , with all updates you could load from server plus: Shout Fabrik MorphicWrappers MathMorphs SendTreeExplorer Tracing Messages Browser DebugReport Network-IRC Scheduler ToothPick Rompecabezas MoviesFor3dot10 SqueakAmp LogicCircus Connectors Keymapping BabySRE And some of Jerome, without his knowledge Packed with three short tangos (for SqueakAmp could take too long with your real music) For only 30 Mb zip . A kind friend for host this ? Ken, Ralph Could put on fpt for all download ? Edgar

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Money units
by Sebastian Sastre 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

Hi there, has anybody tried to use the Units package from squeak map for monetary values? I'm trying this Units package and the Avi Bryant's Money package I've found in squeaksource any general tips for dealing with currencies? thanks, Sebastian Sastre

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Mantis Experiment a Failure? Are we ready yet to move on?
by Jerome Peace 07 Nov '07

07 Nov '07

a somewhat impassioned reply to: Mantis Experiment a Failure? Are we ready yet to move on? (was Re: [BUGFIX] SqueakMap is broken in 3.10) Sigh, I usually hold on to impassioned mail for a few days to see if I want to tone it down. I will take my chances sending this now. The matter is too important not to chime in on. Please take this for what it is and remember that emailed criticm often sounds harsher than it is intended. Here goes: Hi Guys, Jerome Peace, bug tracker here. -1 on Gjallar, please. I don't want to eat more squeak project dog food. At least not here. Not now. Each problem in squeak seems to cause some in the community to try to solve it with a squeak tool that hasn't been invented yet. All experience has shown that integrating a new tool into squeak comes with risks and problems and diverts efforts from finding current bugs into finding the newly introduced bugs. I use mantis all the time it works fine for my purposes, which is reporting, analysing and fixing problems. The release teams use mantis and it works well for the purpose of finding fixes in a harvestable state. The meta-problem is not that mantis is not used by many of the community because they have not caught on to is merits and usefulness. The problem is simply that they have not caught on to its merits and its usefulness. The other meta-problem is communication to and training of the community. Squeak-dev has scarce resources. Mantis is maintained by a large resourceful group of folks outside of the squeak community. They can provide better support for a bug tracker that we can even if our development tools are better. Maybe we are not using the mantis communication resources we have in the best way? Mantis not only allows accumulating information on a single topic. It can also write letters to those who should know about them. But nobody is maintaining the list of reporters to see if we have current emails. Or live reporters for that matter. (This requires the same thing we do with mailling lists send out occasional reminders and are you still there mail). You could also sign up mailing lists as reporters so reminders (I E. bug reports) could be sent to those lists. This would need to be done cautiously lest a list get swamped with mantis spam. But it could be done and it would increase communication and awareness. The current urgent problem in developing squeak images is the mess that the MC decision in 3dot9 made of image maintainence. That is where I would hope to see the effort of the communities best and brightest go. Please use mantis now. It serves its purpose well. Yours in service and curiosity, --Jerome Peace *** >Ken Causey ken at kencausey.com >Tue Nov 6 18:16:16 UTC 2007 > > >Absolutely. I have to admit I'd completely forgotten about Gjallar, >naughty me. Perhaps then I've jumped the gun and should just patiently >twiddle my thumbs and deal with things as they are for a bit longer. > >Ken > >On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 09:44 -0800, tim Rowledge wrote: >> The obvious question is whether gjallar is ready to be used for this? >> >> tim *** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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