Squeak-dev August 2007

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Whats the best way to stop numerous mnu-Messages?
by Enno Schwass 22 Aug '07

22 Aug '07

Hello Every time I show squeak to someone else I just play around a bit. So other people can see how powerful squeak is. After a few minutes I always do something wrong. Sometimes I only get a single mnu. This is not problematic. But then I get numerous mnu and it doesnt look very professional if I have to click million times to get rid of it. Just an example. Someone asked me for a squeak entry field. I remembered that method finder has one. So I open method finder click on the debug halo of the input field and show him the morph with the class browser. No problem at all. Then I want to demonstrate PluggableTextMorph PluggableTextMorph new openInWorld. Fine. Works. Then the mouse enters the newly created morph and a dozen mnu appear. What are YOU doing then? bye Enno

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TimeZone setup, as simple as possible
by Janko Mivšek 22 Aug '07

22 Aug '07

Hi, I'm just going through the challenge to set a local timezone correctly and I'm wondering why there is no something as simple as: TimeZone setLocal: 'CET' to set my timezone? Best regards Janko

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Whats the best way to stop numerous mnu-Messages?
by Jerome Peace 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

Whats the best way to stop numerous mnu-Messages? Hi Enno. Ive run into this problem in a hard way while coding. I stumbled onto the fact that if you hit the debug key in one of the windows that gets rid of most of the lot and gives you a chance to delete the remaining debug boxes. I havent confirmed this always works but this I suspect it will. Also the more permanent way to deal with this is to start or add to a mantis report on the issue. Hth, Yours in service and curiosity, --Jerome Peace *** > >Enno Schwass onkelenno at mac.com >Tue Aug 21 19:39:29 UTC 2007 > >Hello > >Every time I show squeak to someone else I just play around a bit. >So other people can see how powerful squeak is. > >After a few minutes I always do something wrong. Sometimes I >only get a single mnu. This is not problematic. But then I get >numerous mnu and it doesnt look very professional if I have to >click million times to get rid of it. > >Just an example. Someone asked me for a squeak entry field. >I remembered that method finder has one. > >So I open method finder click on the debug halo of the input field >and show him >the morph with the class browser. No problem at all. > >Then I want to demonstrate PluggableTextMorph > >PluggableTextMorph new openInWorld. > >Fine. Works. > >Then the mouse enters the newly created morph and a dozen mnu appear. > >What are YOU doing then? > >bye >Enno > *** ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/

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New UI Mailing List
by Brad Fuller 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

Please join us for user interface discussions at: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui brad

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UI Discussions and possible UI Team
by Jerome Peace 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

UI Discussions and possible UI Team Hi Brad, Are you working on a new UI for morphic? If thats the case or even partially so, why not host your topic on the morphic list? It could use the traffic, and eventually the UI stuff will overlap or conflict with the morphic stuff anyway. Might just as well deal with it as a morphic issue. And I am interested in seeing progress made and issues defined. Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace *** >Brad Fuller bradallenfuller at yahoo.com >Mon Aug 20 19:05:40 UTC 2007 > >Hi All, > >A number of us have been discussing Squeak's user interface issues and would >like to ask others interested to chime in with their thoughts. Because it's >such a wide topic, the consensus among us was to start a separate Squeak UI >mailing list to discuss issues and also open the floor with ideas of possible >next steps. If there is sufficient interest, we would propose a team to SqF >and ask for team volunteers and commitment. > >If that is acceptable, I'd like to ask for a mailing list (already sent a >message to Squeak's mailman and Ken) and ask those who are interested to join >the list. > >Comments please! > >brad *** ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/

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Squeak@ECOOP
by Marcus Denker 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

Hello, Squeak Germany e.V. and c-base are inviting for a special Squeak BOF event next week: When? 31.07.2007, starting at 19:30 Where? c-base (rungestrasse 20 10179 berlin, Germany, Europe) More information: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/222385 The event will be at c-base, see http://c-base.org. We have a seminar room, there will be live music in the main hall later in the evening, see http://www.openstage-berlin.de/ This is outside of ECOOP, so it is possible to attend without a conference registration! And it's not Squeak only: everyone is invited. C-Base is ca. 20min by s-bahn from the main ECOOP site. For conference participants, we will organize to go together, more information will be posted at the conference. The Dyla 2007 Workshop is the same day: http://dyla2007.unibe.ch/ See you in Berlin! Marcus pls. CC: me on any answers to this email, as I am not reading the mailinglist right now. -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

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UI Discussions and possible UI Team
by Brad Fuller 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

Hi All, A number of us have been discussing Squeak's user interface issues and would like to ask others interested to chime in with their thoughts. Because it's such a wide topic, the consensus among us was to start a separate Squeak UI mailing list to discuss issues and also open the floor with ideas of possible next steps. If there is sufficient interest, we would propose a team to SqF and ask for team volunteers and commitment. If that is acceptable, I'd like to ask for a mailing list (already sent a message to Squeak's mailman and Ken) and ask those who are interested to join the list. Comments please! brad

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Halo refactoring (was UI Discussions etc. )
by Jerome Peace 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

Halo refactoring UI Discussions and possible UI Team Hi Dan, If you are working on a Halo-Morph refactoring then it would be good to report intentions, progress, and partial results to mantis. At least announce you are interested and follow the reports. A good place to start would be: http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6564 0006564: [RFE] Halos need to be refactored to be more along the lines of Menus Its serving as the parent issue for halo refactoring. Mantis issue start slow but begin to cook as soon a second person shows interest. I have been working on toward the refactoring of halos as well. And have partial progress in the form of code and notions of what would work well. Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace *** >Douglas Rollwitz colorow at sbcglobal.net >Tue Aug 21 02:16:09 UTC 2007 > >Brad > >I would be willing to contribute. Previously I have >worked on a couple of revisions to the BobsUI package >for UI development. I haven't worked on it in a >while, but I have been getting the urge to pick it >back up. I am also currently working on a >Morphic-HaloMorph refactoring which is a prerequisite >to resuming BobsUI. > >I would enjoy it if others would like to work on this, >as well as be able to contribute my work to a bigger >design than UI development. *** <snip> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/

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Re: Easy Morphic GUI -- very cool
by Noury Bouraqadi 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

Hi Nick, Le 31 juil. 07 à 21:18, ncalexan(a)uci.edu a écrit : > Hi Noury, > > Just wanted to say that EMG is very cool -- it feels quite natural > and I > was a little surprised such a package was not standard in Morphic/ > Squeak > already. I haven't used it enough to find its limitations, etc, > but I am > interested to know what future you think it has, what features it is > lacking and you would like to see added, etc. > Thanks for your interested. EMG is an on-going project. So far, I want it to become really stable and fast to be usable. I do use it for my own projects in order to enhance it. Beside reliability/efficiency, I feel at least a couple of things are missing. The first one is a better integration with morphic. All morphs should better support visual manipulation and linking to other objects by providing appropriate menus, halos, etc. This is a huge work that needs the involvement of all the morphic community. The second thing which I felt useful when using EMG is to display links (i.e. references) among morphs (and with non-visual objects). I shall add and extra feature which is providing every object with facilities to allow handling them visually. That is, I'd like that every object can have a "morphic view" as done in the Morphic Wrappers project. Noury ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. http://csl.ensm-douai.fr/noury European Smalltalk Users Group Board http://www.esug.org ------------------------------------------------------------------

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ssh layers? [SSH-TRANS, SSH-USERAUTH, SSH-CONNECT]
by Howard Stearns 21 Aug '07

21 Aug '07

Is there a Squeak implementation of the three SSH protocol layers? I'd like to plug these in under Ian's Telnet client to make an ssh client. ["How naive!," no doubt...] -H

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