I apologize, Andreas, I should have asked you first..
Software Composition Group guys, does one of you want to be the maintainer?
-----Original Message----- From: Andreas Raab [mailto:andreas.raab@gmx.de] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:49 AM To: 'The general-purpose Squeak developers list' Subject: RE: ClassBuilder fix, SqueakMap, and releasing 3.4
Brent,
I would appreciate if you could take me out as the "maintainer" at SqueakMap. I'm not going to maintain any of this in honest. If you'd like to be the maintainer of a suite of tests for ClassBuilder feel free to add yourself.
Cheers, - Andreas
-----Original Message----- From: squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Brent Vukmer Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:40 PM To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list Subject: RE: ClassBuilder fix, SqueakMap, and releasing 3.4
BTW, I installed the MetaClassBuilderFix SAR in a 3.4gamma image, installed the ClassBuilder test suite, and then ran the ClassBuilder test suite -- 3 out of 3 tests passed.
-----Original Message----- From: Brent Vukmer Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:32 AM To: Squeak-Dev (E-mail) Subject: ClassBuilder fix, SqueakMap, and releasing 3.4
Andreas's fix for the ClassBuilder bug is now on SqueakMap. So is the suite of unit tests that Andreas created to test ClassBuilder.
On the docs side, I've created the following chain of Swiki pages: "Documentation"->"Known Bugs"->"Known Bugs in 3.4"->"Adding instVar to ClassDescription breaks ClassBuilder"
We have SqueakMap fix-love and Swiki documentation-love for the bug. Let's roll with the 3.4 release.
Cheers, Brent
I want to discuss with the other guys first, but some of them were on a conference all week, and other ones went skying today (being close to the alps :-) ). I am left all alone here, but want to discuss with them first. The latest by monday (but probably sooner) we'll give a reply.
On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 04:53 PM, Brent Vukmer wrote:
I apologize, Andreas, I should have asked you first..
Software Composition Group guys, does one of you want to be the maintainer?
-----Original Message----- From: Andreas Raab [mailto:andreas.raab@gmx.de] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:49 AM To: 'The general-purpose Squeak developers list' Subject: RE: ClassBuilder fix, SqueakMap, and releasing 3.4
Brent,
I would appreciate if you could take me out as the "maintainer" at SqueakMap. I'm not going to maintain any of this in honest. If you'd like to be the maintainer of a suite of tests for ClassBuilder feel free to add yourself.
Cheers,
- Andreas
-----Original Message----- From: squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Brent Vukmer Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:40 PM To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list Subject: RE: ClassBuilder fix, SqueakMap, and releasing 3.4
BTW, I installed the MetaClassBuilderFix SAR in a 3.4gamma image, installed the ClassBuilder test suite, and then ran the ClassBuilder test suite -- 3 out of 3 tests passed.
-----Original Message----- From: Brent Vukmer Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:32 AM To: Squeak-Dev (E-mail) Subject: ClassBuilder fix, SqueakMap, and releasing 3.4
Andreas's fix for the ClassBuilder bug is now on SqueakMap. So is the suite of unit tests that Andreas created to test ClassBuilder.
On the docs side, I've created the following chain of Swiki pages: "Documentation"->"Known Bugs"->"Known Bugs in 3.4"->"Adding instVar to ClassDescription breaks ClassBuilder"
We have SqueakMap fix-love and Swiki documentation-love for the bug. Let's roll with the 3.4 release.
Cheers, Brent
Roel Wuyts Software Composition Group roel.wuyts@iam.unibe.ch University of Bern, Switzerland http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~wuyts/ Board Member of the European Smalltalk User Group: www.esug.org
Software Composition Group guys, does one of you want to be the maintainer?
The SCG group in Bern proposes to the community to be maintainer of this set of classes. As direct responsible, I propose myself (Alexandre Bergel).
The first steps would be: - to set up a web site as it exists for the Morphic Cleaning Project (MCP: http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/3005) - to extend the unit tests that exist (thanks Andreas) with new ones covering the rest of the functionality - to precisely identify issues and how to correct them - to maintain a list of fixes (the ClassBuilder one proposed by Andreas will be one of these) - to be responsible for including changes from other people, fix bugs identified by people - to decide what gets in a release and what does not.
If this proposition is accepted by the community, the basic infrastructure will be set up as soon as possible, and a mail describing some issues will be sent soon.
We invite everybody competent to join. Noury, we want you :)
Cheers, Guy@Bern
-----Original Message----- From: Andreas Raab [mailto:andreas.raab@gmx.de] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:49 AM To: 'The general-purpose Squeak developers list' Subject: RE: ClassBuilder fix, SqueakMap, and releasing 3.4
Brent,
I would appreciate if you could take me out as the "maintainer" at SqueakMap. I'm not going to maintain any of this in honest. If you'd like to be the maintainer of a suite of tests for ClassBuilder feel free to add yourself.
Cheers,
- Andreas
-----Original Message----- From: squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces@lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Brent Vukmer Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:40 PM To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list Subject: RE: ClassBuilder fix, SqueakMap, and releasing 3.4
BTW, I installed the MetaClassBuilderFix SAR in a 3.4gamma image, installed the ClassBuilder test suite, and then ran the ClassBuilder test suite -- 3 out of 3 tests passed.
-----Original Message----- From: Brent Vukmer Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:32 AM To: Squeak-Dev (E-mail) Subject: ClassBuilder fix, SqueakMap, and releasing 3.4
Andreas's fix for the ClassBuilder bug is now on SqueakMap. So is the suite of unit tests that Andreas created to test ClassBuilder.
On the docs side, I've created the following chain of Swiki pages: "Documentation"->"Known Bugs"->"Known Bugs in 3.4"->"Adding instVar to ClassDescription breaks ClassBuilder"
We have SqueakMap fix-love and Swiki documentation-love for the bug. Let's roll with the 3.4 release.
Cheers, Brent
Hi SCG and all!
Alexandre Bergel bergel@iam.unibe.ch wrote:
Software Composition Group guys, does one of you want to be the maintainer?
The SCG group in Bern proposes to the community to be maintainer of this set of classes. As direct responsible, I propose myself (Alexandre Bergel).
Just one little nice thing (I think all this sounds great, I will hold all my thoughts on how these "stewardships" can/should work for a while):
I think we should register this as a package on SM. Most of you probably say "What?!" but the ideas is simple - a package on SM doesn't need to have something downloadable - it actually just needs a homepage! And since it is a piece of Squeak that you are indeed maintaining - it *is* a package - just not yet a downloadable one.
So my proposal is that Alexandre registers a package for this (with a suitable name, like "Squeak kernel" or something), puts himself as the maintainer, throws in a short description of what this means and perhaps a list of classes that form the package, adds the suitable homepage etc.
Then, just to make things more interesting - I should probably add a Category (or a few) for classifying packages as "Squeak core", as this one should be.
I see that the "Package grouping" thread has also taken off, haven't read that yet.
Anyway, what do you say? And a package can always be removed.
regards, Göran
On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 01:19 AM, goran.hultgren@bluefish.se wrote:
I think we should register this as a package on SM. Most of you probably say "What?!" but the ideas is simple - a package on SM doesn't need to have something downloadable - it actually just needs a homepage! And since it is a piece of Squeak that you are indeed maintaining - it *is* a package - just not yet a downloadable one.
What?!
I don't think this would be helpful. One of the motivations for releasing 3.4 was to make SqueakMap available to newbies. If we start adding packages that aren't really packages, it could make the whole SM experience confusing.
On the other hand, people that will be contributing to the MCP or KCP are probably on this list, or at least read the swiki, and already know how to get in touch with the appropriate Stewards.
Colin
Colin Putney Whistler.com
Hello Goran
I see SqueakMap as a wonderful tool for sharing and distributing code. But I am a bit confused to use it as a "bookmark". I think the Wiki fulfills generously this task.
Alexandre
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 10:19:02AM +0100, goran.hultgren@bluefish.se wrote:
Hi SCG and all!
Alexandre Bergel bergel@iam.unibe.ch wrote:
Software Composition Group guys, does one of you want to be the maintainer?
The SCG group in Bern proposes to the community to be maintainer of this set of classes. As direct responsible, I propose myself (Alexandre Bergel).
Just one little nice thing (I think all this sounds great, I will hold all my thoughts on how these "stewardships" can/should work for a while):
I think we should register this as a package on SM. Most of you probably say "What?!" but the ideas is simple - a package on SM doesn't need to have something downloadable - it actually just needs a homepage! And since it is a piece of Squeak that you are indeed maintaining - it *is* a package - just not yet a downloadable one.
So my proposal is that Alexandre registers a package for this (with a suitable name, like "Squeak kernel" or something), puts himself as the maintainer, throws in a short description of what this means and perhaps a list of classes that form the package, adds the suitable homepage etc.
Then, just to make things more interesting - I should probably add a Category (or a few) for classifying packages as "Squeak core", as this one should be.
I see that the "Package grouping" thread has also taken off, haven't read that yet.
Anyway, what do you say? And a package can always be removed.
regards, Göran
On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 10:19 AM, goran.hultgren@bluefish.se wrote:
Hi SCG and all!
Alexandre Bergel bergel@iam.unibe.ch wrote:
Software Composition Group guys, does one of you want to be the maintainer?
The SCG group in Bern proposes to the community to be maintainer of this set of classes. As direct responsible, I propose myself (Alexandre Bergel).
Just one little nice thing (I think all this sounds great, I will hold all my thoughts on how these "stewardships" can/should work for a while):
We'll see how it all works out :-)
I think we should register this as a package on SM. Most of you probably say "What?!" but the ideas is simple - a package on SM doesn't need to have something downloadable - it actually just needs a homepage! And since it is a piece of Squeak that you are indeed maintaining - it *is* a package - just not yet a downloadable one.
So my proposal is that Alexandre registers a package for this (with a suitable name, like "Squeak kernel" or something), puts himself as the maintainer, throws in a short description of what this means and perhaps a list of classes that form the package, adds the suitable homepage etc.
Yes, good idea. It should be visible what is going on to everybody. And Squeakmap is the real visible thing.
Then, just to make things more interesting - I should probably add a Category (or a few) for classifying packages as "Squeak core", as this one should be.
I see that the "Package grouping" thread has also taken off, haven't read that yet.
Anyway, what do you say? And a package can always be removed.
regards, Göran
Roel Wuyts Software Composition Group roel.wuyts@iam.unibe.ch University of Bern, Switzerland http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~wuyts/ Board Member of the European Smalltalk User Group: www.esug.org
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