Hello Squeakers.
This mail may be off-topic here, but I can't help to imagine if Squeak runs on it:-)
Sony announced the spec of the next generation PlayStation.
According to the announce, it is something like: * 300Mhz new CPU called "Emotion Engine" (developped by Toshiba). - 128 bit registers, datapath, cache, etc. (the register can be used as two 64 bit registers) - two 64 bit integer unit, (I think 128 bit arithmetic is also possible) two floating vector unit, and MPEG2 decoder are integrated. - the integer arithmetic performace is 1/3 of 500Mhz Pentium III. - 6.2 GFLOPS floating arithmetic performance. - 32MB main memory. - the memory bandwidth is 3.2GB/s. (four times bigger than 64 bit * 100Mhz bus) * new graphics accelerator called "Graphics Synthesizer". - 75 million polygons/sec max. - 48MB/s memory bandwidth. * DVD-ROM. * USB. * PC-card slot. * IEEE-1394.
It will be available this winter in Japan.
People will buy it for a few handred dollars, and some may want to "create" animations, 3D models, and small programs on the machine. If there will be handy programming system running on it, it will be very useful. Squeak may be the candidate.
The possible (half joking) future works for Squeak are: * 64 bit object format. * connecting Form/Canvas object with underlying hardware. * implementing VM using floating vector arithmetic:-) * provide simple interface for the language. * program editing by analog controller(s).
OHSHIMA Yoshiki Dept. of Mathematical and Computing Sciences Tokyo Institute of Technology
Good Grief. It sonds just wonderful. Just look at the size of that bandwidth!
Mind you, the integer performance sounds oddly low given the other figures, which might damage the Sq performance. Still, there should be no problems with graphics...
All one needs is a USB disc for saving images and some network connection - which they must surely have in the works if they have any sense - and it might make a really neat Smalltalk intro system. When I worked at PPS, I tried to get someone to take seriously the rise of the games machines and allow work on a nintendo port. I might have got the brand wrong, but I still think the idea was right. I even included Nintendo in the list of ports on the sweatshirts I made for a bunch of people at PPS :-)
The new Sega dreamcase machine's running Windows CE, right?
Seems like a natural console to hack on.
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Rowledge [mailto:rowledge@interval.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:07 AM To: Squeak mailinglist Subject: Re: It's REALLY heating up out there...
[..]When I worked at PPS, I tried to get someone to take seriously the rise of the games machines and allow work on a nintendo port. I might have got the brand wrong, but I still think the idea was right. I even included Nintendo in the list of ports on the sweatshirts I made for a bunch of people at PPS :-)
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One REAL cool thing is that the Dreamcast has the OS on EVERY CD. THis lets them avoid Firmware/ROM upgrades (like on current WinCE machines) If it is a non encrypted format we might get it to boot SqueakOS!
Maybe Disney needs to talk to Sony. Remember we CAN hack commercial machines! (go look at LegOS) ;-)
adam...
-----Original Message----- From: Ranjan Bagchi [mailto:ranjan.bagchi@pobox.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 11:29 AM To: squeak@cs.uiuc.edu Subject: RE: It's REALLY heating up out there...
The new Sega dreamcase machine's running Windows CE, right?
Seems like a natural console to hack on.
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Rowledge [mailto:rowledge@interval.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:07 AM To: Squeak mailinglist Subject: Re: It's REALLY heating up out there...
[..]When I worked at PPS, I tried to get someone to take seriously the rise of the games
machines and
allow work on a nintendo port. I might have got the brand wrong, but I still think the idea was right. I even included Nintendo in the list of ports on the sweatshirts I made for a bunch of people at PPS :-)
-- Useful random insult:- Nine pence in the shilling. Tim Rowledge: rowledge@interval.com (w) +1 (650) 842-6110 (w) tim@sumeru.stanford.edu (h) http://sumeru.stanford.edu/tim
One REAL cool thing is that the Dreamcast has the OS on EVERY CD. THis lets them avoid Firmware/ROM upgrades (like on current WinCE machines) If it is a non encrypted format we might get it to boot SqueakOS!
This would be very, very sweet. How to read/write images, however?
The possible (half joking) future works for Squeak are:
What's the joke? I like it.
- 64 bit object format.
easy
- connecting Form/Canvas object with underlying hardware.
and don't forget Balloon
- implementing VM using floating vector arithmetic:-)
ah, this is the joke
- provide simple interface for the language.
it's coming
- program editing by analog controller(s).
why not
Linux, Squeak and the Game Machines vs the Wintel Conspiracy.
Sound like fun to me.
-D
On Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:17:06 +0100, Joachim Durchholz joachim.durchholz@munich.netsurf.de said:
Joachim> Er... how do you enter variable names with an analog controller?
Graffiti -- works great for palm pilot. Thee thought of doing that with a gamepad instead of a stylus makes me shudder though.
Alex Rice
No problem. Use a USB keyboard/mouse, it does have one.
adam...
-----Original Message----- From: Joachim Durchholz [mailto:joachim.durchholz@munich.netsurf.de]
Subject: Re: It's REALLY heating up out there...
Dan Ingalls wrote:
- program editing by analog controller(s).
why not
Er... how do you enter variable names with an analog controller?
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 ohshima@is.titech.ac.jp wrote:
- the memory bandwidth is 3.2GB/s. (four times bigger than 64 bit * 100Mhz bus)
This is exactly the same number SGI claims for their new Visual Workstations (http://visual.sgi.com/). These are NT machines with a proprietary chipset called "Cobalt" that is optimized for memory bandwidth. If I followed the Squeak&bandwidth discussion correctly, these would make awesome Squeak machines.
/bert
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