Hi guys!
I said I was going to post and explain why I am stepping down, so this is it. :)
The SqF board is actually functioning pretty good today. The number of people involved seems about right and it is getting better and better organized I would say. But of course, we can always do better - there are plenty of things we intended to do, but simply haven't gotten around to yet or failed to do.
My reason for stepping down and not going for re-election is simply that I don't feel I have enough time to spend and that I can spend the little time I have much better on other things now that the board is in a "working state".
It is also based on the fact that we *need* to rotate - I am the "oldest" trying to guide/lead/coordinate (note the emphasis on *trying*, I don't claim that I ever did a very good job, but I tried) since SqC and I don't want to be perceived as a "power hungry <insert choice of word here>" as some have painted me to be.
All the way from the start I have only had good intentions behind trying to get this community working, and I have had no personal benefits of any kind through this work (AFAICT).
When the SqF was trying to form and in my view failed miserably (the closed list was suddenly discussing the website instead of how to actually form the SqF - and only half hearted at that) I and Cees took the initiative to "grab" the rudder (the Castaways/Islanders/Coordinators "coup" or whatever you want to call it) and I *don't regret it at all* because we actually succeeded:
- We got the Team model in place which seems to be working quite well despite some team's lack of progress. Personally I find that to be a big enabler, and I take a little bit of personal pride in it. :)
- We have created a lot of infrastructure (box1 and now box2, website, file area, domain hosting, source.squeakfoundation.org yaddayadda) which currently is controlled by our community. This is hard work, believe me, and Cees, Ken, Bruce, Jason and everyone else involved should have a great applause for that.
- We have a paypal account with money on it that is used to support that infrastructure. In other words the community is running itself. And we have more funds coming into place through the more recent efforts by especially Stephane Ducasse.
- We have a formal relationship with www.softwarefreedom.org to work on license issues, currently there is an ongoing effort concerning cryptography stuff. This is a really good thing.
- We have a real formal entity through ESUG. Sure, in the long run we should be standing on our own feet. but it is still a great step forward. Thanks to especially Stephane.
- We have a functioning board today. That is a fact.
...and much more that I am probably forgetting.
But enough of that. What is happening now then? Well, we are keeping our promise and are stepping down in order to get a more "democratic footing" in the community. Exactly how this election is going to work is in the hands of the Election team, but I trust them to come up with a good solution.
Hopefully we get two new brave souls stepping forward and joining the current 5 that are working quite hard - yes, I don't deny that I personally am hoping for the current 5 to be re-elected because they are still hungry and have already proven that they are doing a good job. But we will see. :)
Back to my personal focus - I am trying to focus my efforts and having stepped off the SqF board and also handed over the leadership of the Network team (now joined with File team and renamed to I/O Team :)) to Cees, this means I can put my effort in:
- Participation in teams. Website and I/O mainly. - Maintenance of packages. Especially SqueakMap, KomHttpServer and Httpview2.
And I will also try to work, simply as a member of our community, on all the issues listed here: http://swiki.krampe.se/castaways/2
That list is still very much valid and a bit forgotten IMHO.
regards, Göran
Göran:
No member of this community what know you work and exchange a few mails with you thinks you are glued to a any Coordinator chair.
Personally , I miss you and wish you should stay and other member could go.
Squeak is gift of Allan, Dan and the all what contribute in the past and continue supporting it, to all idealistic people of World.
And remember all what nobody, Coordinators or not, OWNS Squeak.
So reconsider you decision, I need you hard work and good sense of humor.
Edgar
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Hi Edgar!
"Lic. Edgar J. De Cleene" edgardec2001@yahoo.com.ar wrote:
Göran:
No member of this community what know you work and exchange a few mails with you thinks you are glued to a any Coordinator chair.
Personally , I miss you and wish you should stay and other member could go.
No need to "miss" me - I am still here you know. ;)
Squeak is gift of Allan, Dan and the all what contribute in the past and continue supporting it, to all idealistic people of World. And remember all what nobody, Coordinators or not, OWNS Squeak.
So reconsider you decision, I need you hard work and good sense of humor.
But hopefully I will produce more code and less emails. :)
Edgar
Thanks for your kind words.
regards, Göran
goran@krampe.se puso en su mail :
But hopefully I will produce more code and less emails. :)
So , being a fútbol fan (soccer) , when you start something similar to what you do for Euro Cup, this time for next FIFA World Cup ?.
And if you could let us learn from code ....
Edgar
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Hi!
"Lic. Edgar J. De Cleene" edgardec2001@yahoo.com.ar wrote:
goran@krampe.se puso en su mail :
But hopefully I will produce more code and less emails. :)
So , being a fútbol fan (soccer) , when you start something similar to what you do for Euro Cup, this time for next FIFA World Cup ?.
And if you could let us learn from code ....
Edgar
Yes, I actually intend to fire up that little app for the World Cup - and I promise to share it with you all. :)
regards, Göran
goran@krampe.se wrote:
Hi guys!
I said I was going to post and explain why I am stepping down, so this is it. :)
The SqF board is actually functioning pretty good today. The number of people involved seems about right and it is getting better and better organized I would say. But of course, we can always do better - there are plenty of things we intended to do, but simply haven't gotten around to yet or failed to do.
My reason for stepping down and not going for re-election is simply that I don't feel I have enough time to spend and that I can spend the little time I have much better on other things now that the board is in a "working state".
It is also based on the fact that we *need* to rotate - I am the "oldest" trying to guide/lead/coordinate (note the emphasis on *trying*, I don't claim that I ever did a very good job, but I tried) since SqC and I don't want to be perceived as a "power hungry <insert choice of word here>" as some have painted me to be.
All the way from the start I have only had good intentions behind trying to get this community working, and I have had no personal benefits of any kind through this work (AFAICT).
When the SqF was trying to form and in my view failed miserably (the closed list was suddenly discussing the website instead of how to actually form the SqF - and only half hearted at that) I and Cees took the initiative to "grab" the rudder (the Castaways/Islanders/Coordinators "coup" or whatever you want to call it) and I *don't regret it at all* because we actually succeeded:
- We got the Team model in place which seems to be working quite well
despite some team's lack of progress. Personally I find that to be a big enabler, and I take a little bit of personal pride in it. :)
- We have created a lot of infrastructure (box1 and now box2, website,
file area, domain hosting, source.squeakfoundation.org yaddayadda) which currently is controlled by our community. This is hard work, believe me, and Cees, Ken, Bruce, Jason and everyone else involved should have a great applause for that.
- We have a paypal account with money on it that is used to support that
infrastructure. In other words the community is running itself. And we have more funds coming into place through the more recent efforts by especially Stephane Ducasse.
Which remind me that we don't have 'donate' page with a link to the paypal account on squeak.org. What are the links etc ? Karl PS Thanks for all effort so far, Göran :-)
- We have a formal relationship with www.softwarefreedom.org to work on
license issues, currently there is an ongoing effort concerning cryptography stuff. This is a really good thing.
- We have a real formal entity through ESUG. Sure, in the long run we
should be standing on our own feet. but it is still a great step forward. Thanks to especially Stephane.
- We have a functioning board today. That is a fact.
...and much more that I am probably forgetting.
But enough of that. What is happening now then? Well, we are keeping our promise and are stepping down in order to get a more "democratic footing" in the community. Exactly how this election is going to work is in the hands of the Election team, but I trust them to come up with a good solution.
Hopefully we get two new brave souls stepping forward and joining the current 5 that are working quite hard - yes, I don't deny that I personally am hoping for the current 5 to be re-elected because they are still hungry and have already proven that they are doing a good job. But we will see. :)
Back to my personal focus - I am trying to focus my efforts and having stepped off the SqF board and also handed over the leadership of the Network team (now joined with File team and renamed to I/O Team :)) to Cees, this means I can put my effort in:
- Participation in teams. Website and I/O mainly.
- Maintenance of packages. Especially SqueakMap, KomHttpServer and
Httpview2.
And I will also try to work, simply as a member of our community, on all the issues listed here: http://swiki.krampe.se/castaways/2
That list is still very much valid and a bit forgotten IMHO.
regards, Göran
Yes, thanks for all you have done Goran (and all you will do... :))
Karl, you can look at the source of http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/squeakfoundation/supporters to get the links for donating. I would recommend just forwarding to that page though.
=Jason
On 1/4/06, karl karl.ramberg@chello.se wrote:
goran@krampe.se wrote:
Hi guys!
I said I was going to post and explain why I am stepping down, so this is it. :)
The SqF board is actually functioning pretty good today. The number of people involved seems about right and it is getting better and better organized I would say. But of course, we can always do better - there are plenty of things we intended to do, but simply haven't gotten around to yet or failed to do.
My reason for stepping down and not going for re-election is simply that I don't feel I have enough time to spend and that I can spend the little time I have much better on other things now that the board is in a "working state".
It is also based on the fact that we *need* to rotate - I am the "oldest" trying to guide/lead/coordinate (note the emphasis on *trying*, I don't claim that I ever did a very good job, but I tried) since SqC and I don't want to be perceived as a "power hungry <insert choice of word here>" as some have painted me to be.
All the way from the start I have only had good intentions behind trying to get this community working, and I have had no personal benefits of any kind through this work (AFAICT).
When the SqF was trying to form and in my view failed miserably (the closed list was suddenly discussing the website instead of how to actually form the SqF - and only half hearted at that) I and Cees took the initiative to "grab" the rudder (the Castaways/Islanders/Coordinators "coup" or whatever you want to call it) and I *don't regret it at all* because we actually succeeded:
- We got the Team model in place which seems to be working quite well
despite some team's lack of progress. Personally I find that to be a big enabler, and I take a little bit of personal pride in it. :)
- We have created a lot of infrastructure (box1 and now box2, website,
file area, domain hosting, source.squeakfoundation.org yaddayadda) which currently is controlled by our community. This is hard work, believe me, and Cees, Ken, Bruce, Jason and everyone else involved should have a great applause for that.
- We have a paypal account with money on it that is used to support that
infrastructure. In other words the community is running itself. And we have more funds coming into place through the more recent efforts by especially Stephane Ducasse.
Which remind me that we don't have 'donate' page with a link to the paypal account on squeak.org. What are the links etc ? Karl PS Thanks for all effort so far, Göran :-)
- We have a formal relationship with www.softwarefreedom.org to work on
license issues, currently there is an ongoing effort concerning cryptography stuff. This is a really good thing.
- We have a real formal entity through ESUG. Sure, in the long run we
should be standing on our own feet. but it is still a great step forward. Thanks to especially Stephane.
- We have a functioning board today. That is a fact.
...and much more that I am probably forgetting.
But enough of that. What is happening now then? Well, we are keeping our promise and are stepping down in order to get a more "democratic footing" in the community. Exactly how this election is going to work is in the hands of the Election team, but I trust them to come up with a good solution.
Hopefully we get two new brave souls stepping forward and joining the current 5 that are working quite hard - yes, I don't deny that I personally am hoping for the current 5 to be re-elected because they are still hungry and have already proven that they are doing a good job. But we will see. :)
Back to my personal focus - I am trying to focus my efforts and having stepped off the SqF board and also handed over the leadership of the Network team (now joined with File team and renamed to I/O Team :)) to Cees, this means I can put my effort in:
- Participation in teams. Website and I/O mainly.
- Maintenance of packages. Especially SqueakMap, KomHttpServer and
Httpview2.
And I will also try to work, simply as a member of our community, on all the issues listed here: http://swiki.krampe.se/castaways/2
That list is still very much valid and a bit forgotten IMHO.
regards, Göran
-- Jason Rogers
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
Jason Rogers wrote:
Yes, thanks for all you have done Goran (and all you will do... :))
Karl, you can look at the source of http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/squeakfoundation/supporters to get the links for donating. I would recommend just forwarding to that page though.
Thanks, I think I'll just link to it to begin with. Karl
=Jason
On 1/4/06, karl karl.ramberg@chello.se wrote:
goran@krampe.se wrote:
Hi guys!
I said I was going to post and explain why I am stepping down, so this is it. :)
The SqF board is actually functioning pretty good today. The number of people involved seems about right and it is getting better and better organized I would say. But of course, we can always do better - there are plenty of things we intended to do, but simply haven't gotten around to yet or failed to do.
My reason for stepping down and not going for re-election is simply that I don't feel I have enough time to spend and that I can spend the little time I have much better on other things now that the board is in a "working state".
It is also based on the fact that we *need* to rotate - I am the "oldest" trying to guide/lead/coordinate (note the emphasis on *trying*, I don't claim that I ever did a very good job, but I tried) since SqC and I don't want to be perceived as a "power hungry <insert choice of word here>" as some have painted me to be.
All the way from the start I have only had good intentions behind trying to get this community working, and I have had no personal benefits of any kind through this work (AFAICT).
When the SqF was trying to form and in my view failed miserably (the closed list was suddenly discussing the website instead of how to actually form the SqF - and only half hearted at that) I and Cees took the initiative to "grab" the rudder (the Castaways/Islanders/Coordinators "coup" or whatever you want to call it) and I *don't regret it at all* because we actually succeeded:
- We got the Team model in place which seems to be working quite well
despite some team's lack of progress. Personally I find that to be a big enabler, and I take a little bit of personal pride in it. :)
- We have created a lot of infrastructure (box1 and now box2, website,
file area, domain hosting, source.squeakfoundation.org yaddayadda) which currently is controlled by our community. This is hard work, believe me, and Cees, Ken, Bruce, Jason and everyone else involved should have a great applause for that.
- We have a paypal account with money on it that is used to support that
infrastructure. In other words the community is running itself. And we have more funds coming into place through the more recent efforts by especially Stephane Ducasse.
Which remind me that we don't have 'donate' page with a link to the paypal account on squeak.org. What are the links etc ? Karl PS Thanks for all effort so far, Göran :-)
- We have a formal relationship with www.softwarefreedom.org to work on
license issues, currently there is an ongoing effort concerning cryptography stuff. This is a really good thing.
- We have a real formal entity through ESUG. Sure, in the long run we
should be standing on our own feet. but it is still a great step forward. Thanks to especially Stephane.
- We have a functioning board today. That is a fact.
...and much more that I am probably forgetting.
But enough of that. What is happening now then? Well, we are keeping our promise and are stepping down in order to get a more "democratic footing" in the community. Exactly how this election is going to work is in the hands of the Election team, but I trust them to come up with a good solution.
Hopefully we get two new brave souls stepping forward and joining the current 5 that are working quite hard - yes, I don't deny that I personally am hoping for the current 5 to be re-elected because they are still hungry and have already proven that they are doing a good job. But we will see. :)
Back to my personal focus - I am trying to focus my efforts and having stepped off the SqF board and also handed over the leadership of the Network team (now joined with File team and renamed to I/O Team :)) to Cees, this means I can put my effort in:
- Participation in teams. Website and I/O mainly.
- Maintenance of packages. Especially SqueakMap, KomHttpServer and
Httpview2.
And I will also try to work, simply as a member of our community, on all the issues listed here: http://swiki.krampe.se/castaways/2
That list is still very much valid and a bit forgotten IMHO.
regards, Göran
-- Jason Rogers
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Galatians 2:20
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006, goran@krampe.se wrote: [snip]
It is also based on the fact that we *need* to rotate - I am the "oldest" trying to guide/lead/coordinate (note the emphasis on *trying*, I don't claim that I ever did a very good job, but I tried) since SqC and I don't want to be perceived as a "power hungry <insert choice of word here>" as some have painted me to be.
[snip]
Hmm. What words might I choose?
Flower?
"Goran is *such* a power hungry flower, man. If he goes to seed *one more time*..."
Chipmunk?
"Whenever I think of chipmunks that have turned from the revolutionary idealism in their youth to the rapacious filling of their cheeks with the blood and sweat of the peasants, Goran comes to mind..."
Canvas?
"Now we can paint this power hungry canvas a whiter shade of pale! He is *beyond* the pale! He is a neon PUCE!"
Lightbulb?
"We have to switch from Goran's to compact fluorescents...our electricity bill is through the roof! Plus, these are extra dim too!"
Praiseworthy, hardworking, selfless, modest, all around nice guy?
Yeah, that last one really works for me.
Cheers, Bijan.
Bijan, I really miss your posts... :) And thanks.
Bijan Parsia bparsia@email.unc.edu wrote:
Hmm. What words might I choose?
[SNIP of a hilarious post]
regards, Göran
goran@krampe.se wrote:
Hopefully we get two new brave souls stepping forward and joining the current 5 that are working quite hard - yes, I don't deny that I personally am hoping for the current 5 to be re-elected because they are still hungry and have already proven that they are doing a good job. But we will see. :)
I would like to see someone from other parts of the world than Europe and North America to be in the SqF board. There are quite a number of Japanese and South American Squeakers. Step up guys and girls :-)
Karl
Yes excellent idea!
Stef
Hopefully we get two new brave souls stepping forward and joining the current 5 that are working quite hard - yes, I don't deny that I personally am hoping for the current 5 to be re-elected because they are still hungry and have already proven that they are doing a good job. But we will see. :)
I would like to see someone from other parts of the world than Europe and North America to be in the SqF board. There are quite a number of Japanese and South American Squeakers. Step up guys and girls :-)
Karl
Göran -
Thanks for all your hard work. I've really appreciated your efforts to help the Squeak community.
I look forward to seeing you get more time to hack - it's fun to see how much you enjoy programming in Squeak :)
Thanks again, Brent
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