Hi,
Just got a wavesanbox[1] account and I can't help thinking this would be a good (global?) comunication medium (enriched emails, mailing-lists, tutorials, technical discussions and also bug tracker...).
What do other think ? Could we create a Smalltalk related waves/groups as a start ?
And what about having bindings and a protocol implementation in Smalltalk ?
Cheers,
The Google Wave protocol isn't terribly hard to implement, as it is only really an extension of XMPP, which is XML over TCP/IP with a crappy and overly verbose DTD. This isn't something some of us haven't already done repeatedly over the years. (First time I built this sort of system was 2001/2002 for a online fantasy sports site) Bindings would only take a day or two, the trick is really adding a robust server to Squeak/Pharo/etc, and the engineering for that infrastructure (say 10k concurrent per node) is beyond what the VM can realistically handle. So interfacing with Google Wave, couple days of work. Sharing Smalltalk code and editing it over Google Wave, well keep your eyes open cause that's already underway :) Dave
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Cédrick Béler cdrick65@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Just got a wavesanbox[1] account and I can't help thinking this would be a good (global?) comunication medium (enriched emails, mailing-lists, tutorials, technical discussions and also bug tracker...).
What do other think ? Could we create a Smalltalk related waves/groups as a start ?
And what about having bindings and a protocol implementation in Smalltalk ?
Cheers,
-- Cédrick (cdrick@wavesandbox.com)
[1] wave is a new tool from google aiming at redefining emails and instant messages (based on waveprotocol)... The application proposed is epecially interesting (to me) in its collaborative creation/edition of "waves". Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ
2009/7/28 David Goehrig dave@nexttolast.com:
The Google Wave protocol isn't terribly hard to implement, as it is only really an extension of XMPP, which is XML over TCP/IP with a crappy and overly verbose DTD. This isn't something some of us haven't already done repeatedly over the years. (First time I built this sort of system was 2001/2002 for a online fantasy sports site) Bindings would only take a day or two, the trick is really adding a robust server to Squeak/Pharo/etc, and the engineering for that infrastructure (say 10k concurrent per node) is beyond what the VM can realistically handle. So interfacing with Google Wave, couple days of work.
Thanks for the information Dave.
Sharing Smalltalk code and editing it over Google Wave, well keep your eyes open cause that's already underway :)
I will ;)
Dave
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Cédrick Béler cdrick65@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Just got a wavesanbox[1] account and I can't help thinking this would be a good (global?) comunication medium (enriched emails, mailing-lists, tutorials, technical discussions and also bug tracker...).
What do other think ? Could we create a Smalltalk related waves/groups as a start ?
And what about having bindings and a protocol implementation in Smalltalk ?
Cheers,
-- Cédrick (cdrick@wavesandbox.com)
[1] wave is a new tool from google aiming at redefining emails and instant messages (based on waveprotocol)... The application proposed is epecially interesting (to me) in its collaborative creation/edition of "waves". Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ
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On 27.07.2009, at 20:16, Cédrick Béler wrote:
Hi,
Just got a wavesanbox[1] account and I can't help thinking this would be a good (global?) comunication medium (enriched emails, mailing-lists, tutorials, technical discussions and also bug tracker...).
What do other think ? Could we create a Smalltalk related waves/groups as a start ?
I would like to try wave! How does one get an account?
And what about having bindings and a protocol implementation in Smalltalk ?
Would be cool... I think a smalltalk that uses wave for storing it´s sourcecode would be a fun project..
Marcus
-- Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Marcus Denkerdenker@acm.org wrote:
What do other think ? Could we create a Smalltalk related waves/groups as a start ?
I would like to try wave! How does one get an account?
https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignup/
I would like to try wave! How does one get an account?
Or the developer sandbox: https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignupfordev/
I would like to try wave! How does one get an account?
or use http://code.google.com/p/pygowave-server/
at
http://pygowave.p2k-network.org/
No doubt there are other implementations in the wild now.
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