Celeste was always a cool example and it sounds like it wouldn't be much to get it going in 4.4. I hope someone will do it.
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. jecel@merlintec.com wrote:
Hannes,
Do you have Celeste in 4.4? How did you load it?
I am typing this in a 4.1 image (latest update #9957). It has been a long time since I loaded Celeste into this image. For the previous images I had always used SqueakMap, but for this one it seems I used the Monticello Browser to load packages Network-ar.69, Scamper-kfr.12 and Network-Mail Reader-ls.21 from http://www.squeaksource.com/Celeste and http://www.squeaksource.com/Scamper but I might be interpreting the Monticello Browser gui wrong.
There are some small patches that I have written myself, but they are horrible hacks just to deal with very broken emails I have received. They are always spam, so I have not wasted my time doing it right.
-- Jecel
On 10/5/12, Chris Muller asqueaker@gmail.com wrote:
Celeste was always a cool example and it sounds like it wouldn't be much to get it going in 4.4. I hope someone will do it.
Chris,
what are the reasons why you thing that porting wouldn't be a big issue.
Because it relies on libraries which did not change much from 4.1 to 4.4?
Do you remember what it needs as prerequisite?
--Hannes
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. jecel@merlintec.com wrote:
Hannes,
Do you have Celeste in 4.4? How did you load it?
I am typing this in a 4.1 image (latest update #9957). It has been a long time since I loaded Celeste into this image. For the previous images I had always used SqueakMap, but for this one it seems I used the Monticello Browser to load packages Network-ar.69, Scamper-kfr.12 and Network-Mail Reader-ls.21 from http://www.squeaksource.com/Celeste and http://www.squeaksource.com/Scamper but I might be interpreting the Monticello Browser gui wrong.
There are some small patches that I have written myself, but they are horrible hacks just to deal with very broken emails I have received. They are always spam, so I have not wasted my time doing it right.
-- Jecel
I don't have any reasons other than intuition. Just thinking about it -- with Celeste we have a standard window, a domain model and access to SMTP. Which of these would be difficult in 4.4? Nothing comes to mind.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 6:10 AM, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/5/12, Chris Muller asqueaker@gmail.com wrote:
Celeste was always a cool example and it sounds like it wouldn't be much to get it going in 4.4. I hope someone will do it.
Chris,
what are the reasons why you thing that porting wouldn't be a big issue.
Because it relies on libraries which did not change much from 4.1 to 4.4?
Do you remember what it needs as prerequisite?
--Hannes
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. jecel@merlintec.com wrote:
Hannes,
Do you have Celeste in 4.4? How did you load it?
I am typing this in a 4.1 image (latest update #9957). It has been a long time since I loaded Celeste into this image. For the previous images I had always used SqueakMap, but for this one it seems I used the Monticello Browser to load packages Network-ar.69, Scamper-kfr.12 and Network-Mail Reader-ls.21 from http://www.squeaksource.com/Celeste and http://www.squeaksource.com/Scamper but I might be interpreting the Monticello Browser gui wrong.
There are some small patches that I have written myself, but they are horrible hacks just to deal with very broken emails I have received. They are always spam, so I have not wasted my time doing it right.
-- Jecel
Oops, I just saw Edgar's note.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Chris Muller ma.chris.m@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have any reasons other than intuition. Just thinking about it -- with Celeste we have a standard window, a domain model and access to SMTP. Which of these would be difficult in 4.4? Nothing comes to mind.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 6:10 AM, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/5/12, Chris Muller asqueaker@gmail.com wrote:
Celeste was always a cool example and it sounds like it wouldn't be much to get it going in 4.4. I hope someone will do it.
Chris,
what are the reasons why you thing that porting wouldn't be a big issue.
Because it relies on libraries which did not change much from 4.1 to 4.4?
Do you remember what it needs as prerequisite?
--Hannes
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. jecel@merlintec.com wrote:
Hannes,
Do you have Celeste in 4.4? How did you load it?
I am typing this in a 4.1 image (latest update #9957). It has been a long time since I loaded Celeste into this image. For the previous images I had always used SqueakMap, but for this one it seems I used the Monticello Browser to load packages Network-ar.69, Scamper-kfr.12 and Network-Mail Reader-ls.21 from http://www.squeaksource.com/Celeste and http://www.squeaksource.com/Scamper but I might be interpreting the Monticello Browser gui wrong.
There are some small patches that I have written myself, but they are horrible hacks just to deal with very broken emails I have received. They are always spam, so I have not wasted my time doing it right.
-- Jecel
Edgar mentions in the other thread that Google mail does not work and that we might get the missing code from Zinc. Would it be possible to give some elaborations on that?
--Hannes
On 10/5/12, Chris Muller asqueaker@gmail.com wrote:
Oops, I just saw Edgar's note.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Chris Muller ma.chris.m@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have any reasons other than intuition. Just thinking about it -- with Celeste we have a standard window, a domain model and access to SMTP. Which of these would be difficult in 4.4? Nothing comes to mind.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 6:10 AM, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/5/12, Chris Muller asqueaker@gmail.com wrote:
Celeste was always a cool example and it sounds like it wouldn't be much to get it going in 4.4. I hope someone will do it.
Chris,
what are the reasons why you thing that porting wouldn't be a big issue.
Because it relies on libraries which did not change much from 4.1 to 4.4?
Do you remember what it needs as prerequisite?
--Hannes
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. jecel@merlintec.com wrote:
Hannes,
Do you have Celeste in 4.4? How did you load it?
I am typing this in a 4.1 image (latest update #9957). It has been a long time since I loaded Celeste into this image. For the previous images I had always used SqueakMap, but for this one it seems I used the Monticello Browser to load packages Network-ar.69, Scamper-kfr.12 and Network-Mail Reader-ls.21 from http://www.squeaksource.com/Celeste and http://www.squeaksource.com/Scamper but I might be interpreting the Monticello Browser gui wrong.
There are some small patches that I have written myself, but they are horrible hacks just to deal with very broken emails I have received. They are always spam, so I have not wasted my time doing it right.
-- Jecel
On 10/5/12 12:43 PM, "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Edgar mentions in the other thread that Google mail does not work and that we might get the missing code from Zinc. Would it be possible to give some elaborations on that?
--Hannes
See Sven original post at
http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2012-February/059812.ht ml
In short, for have gmail you must deal with HTTPS , hope this help
Edgar
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2005@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/5/12 12:43 PM, "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Edgar mentions in the other thread that Google mail does not work and that we might get the missing code from Zinc. Would it be possible to give some elaborations on that?
--Hannes
See Sven original post at
http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2012-February/059812.ht ml
In short, for have gmail you must deal with HTTPS , hope this help
Edgar
I just replie on the other thread. Both *claim* they require SSL. Maybe this is not exactly true for Yahoo?
On 10/5/12 10:15 PM, "Open Slate" openslateproj@gmail.com wrote:
I just replie on the other thread. Both *claim* they require SSL. Maybe this is not exactly true for Yahoo?
Gary:
I try to follow Sven example on Pharo and how actually Celeste works. No promises ....
Edgar
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