No one expects continuous integration.
Some of us really want it, though. I'm going to see about getting it done.
Feel free to chime in on this thread if you have thoughts you'd like to share on the subject.
Yours,
Casey Ransberger
On 22 June 2011 21:20, Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r@gmail.com wrote:
No one expects continuous integration. Some of us really want it, though. I'm going to see about getting it done. Feel free to chime in on this thread if you have thoughts you'd like to share on the subject.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, give me a decent VM on 64-bit FreeBSD and I'll set up Hudson or Jenkins or whatever.
I've tried a few times, and just ran out of energy. I know folks have installed on their _32 bit_ machines. Randal, do you have one lying around?
frank
"Frank" == Frank Shearar frank.shearar@gmail.com writes:
Frank> I've tried a few times, and just ran out of energy. I know folks have Frank> installed on their _32 bit_ machines. Randal, do you have one lying Frank> around?
Not lying around. Just a few live ones. :)
Randal, what's your opinion: should we get started on one of these BSD boxes, or should we drop in on existing infrastructure, and then repeat the effort when the BSD hosts become generally available?
I'll stick it through either way, but I'm looking to build consensus on what the right course of action is.
On Jun 22, 2011, at 1:32 PM, merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) wrote:
"Frank" == Frank Shearar frank.shearar@gmail.com writes:
Frank> I've tried a few times, and just ran out of energy. I know folks have Frank> installed on their _32 bit_ machines. Randal, do you have one lying Frank> around?
Not lying around. Just a few live ones. :)
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"Casey" == Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r@gmail.com writes:
Casey> Randal, what's your opinion: should we get started on one of Casey> these BSD boxes, or should we drop in on existing infrastructure, Casey> and then repeat the effort when the BSD hosts become generally Casey> available? I'll stick it through either way, but I'm looking to Casey> build consensus on what the right course of action is.
The FreeBSD ports is a superset of just about everything else, so it won't matter much. Just a matter of typing the right "portmaster" commands.
If we do end up with something that will run only on Linux, that's also usually not a problem, as the FreeBSD install can be tweaked to understand the Linux ABI natively on a per-binary basis. (Not an emulation, but native syscalls that are Linux syscalls instead of FreeBSD ABI calls.)
"Randal" == Randal L Schwartz merlyn@stonehenge.com writes:
"Casey" == Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r@gmail.com writes:
Casey> Randal, what's your opinion: should we get started on one of Casey> these BSD boxes, or should we drop in on existing infrastructure, Casey> and then repeat the effort when the BSD hosts become generally Casey> available? I'll stick it through either way, but I'm looking to Casey> build consensus on what the right course of action is.
Randal> The FreeBSD ports is a superset of just about everything else, so it Randal> won't matter much. Just a matter of typing the right "portmaster" Randal> commands.
Oh, even simpler, see https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/FreeBSD
I don't see a Jenkins port just yet, but they haven't diverged far so it shouldn't be hard to bring up.
On 22 June 2011 23:36, Randal L. Schwartz merlyn@stonehenge.com wrote:
"Randal" == Randal L Schwartz merlyn@stonehenge.com writes:
"Casey" == Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r@gmail.com writes:
Casey> Randal, what's your opinion: should we get started on one of Casey> these BSD boxes, or should we drop in on existing infrastructure, Casey> and then repeat the effort when the BSD hosts become generally Casey> available? I'll stick it through either way, but I'm looking to Casey> build consensus on what the right course of action is.
Randal> The FreeBSD ports is a superset of just about everything else, so it Randal> won't matter much. Just a matter of typing the right "portmaster" Randal> commands.
Oh, even simpler, see https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/FreeBSD
I don't see a Jenkins port just yet, but they haven't diverged far so it shouldn't be hard to bring up.
I've installed Hudson in the meantime, but which Tomcat should I use? There are www/tomcat{-native, 41, 55, 6, 7} ports. I would _guess 7 is what we want...?
frank
On 23/06/11 5:18 AM, Frank Shearar wrote:
I've installed Hudson in the meantime, but which Tomcat should I use? There are www/tomcat{-native, 41, 55, 6, 7} ports. I would _guess 7 is what we want...?
You don't need Tomcat. Hudson listens on port 8080 out of the box. Here's my startup script (uses port 9090). ==== #!/bin/sh -x
WARFILE=$HOME/apps/hudson/hudson.war LOGFILE=hudson.log
nohup java -jar $WARFILE --httpPort=9090 > $LOGFILE 2>&1 & ====
On 23 June 2011 14:30, Yanni Chiu yanni@rogers.com wrote:
On 23/06/11 5:18 AM, Frank Shearar wrote:
I've installed Hudson in the meantime, but which Tomcat should I use? There are www/tomcat{-native, 41, 55, 6, 7} ports. I would _guess 7 is what we want...?
You don't need Tomcat. Hudson listens on port 8080 out of the box. Here's my startup script (uses port 9090). ==== #!/bin/sh -x
WARFILE=$HOME/apps/hudson/hudson.war LOGFILE=hudson.log
nohup java -jar $WARFILE --httpPort=9090 > $LOGFILE 2>&1 &
Ah thanks, Yanni. I'll try it out right away.
frank
Frank! Welcome aboard.
I note: in an ideal world, we would have a variety of hosts systems running the tests. But this will be expensive.
I'd like to find the best single free configuration, and I think FreeBSD (or a variant) would be a good choice, simply for the legendary stability of the this system, and its wealth of well-written documentation.
In any event, I believe that the choice of host system is perpendicular to the cause. Jenkins will run anywhere. I'd like to avoid getting bogged down in such details, but I'd also prefer to avoid doing this twice in the same year.
If I may ask, what is your motivation for seeking a 64-bit host?
On Jun 22, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Frank Shearar frank.shearar@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 June 2011 21:20, Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r@gmail.com wrote:
No one expects continuous integration. Some of us really want it, though. I'm going to see about getting it done. Feel free to chime in on this thread if you have thoughts you'd like to share on the subject.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, give me a decent VM on 64-bit FreeBSD and I'll set up Hudson or Jenkins or whatever.
I've tried a few times, and just ran out of energy. I know folks have installed on their _32 bit_ machines. Randal, do you have one lying around?
frank
Ah: I forgot to mention that we will have the support of the Squeak Oversight Board. This is probably worth stating.
On Jun 22, 2011, at 1:20 PM, Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r@gmail.com wrote:
No one expects continuous integration.
Some of us really want it, though. I'm going to see about getting it done.
Feel free to chime in on this thread if you have thoughts you'd like to share on the subject.
Yours,
Casey Ransberger
On 22.06.2011, at 22:20, Casey Ransberger wrote:
No one expects continuous integration.
Heresy! Fetch the rack!
Some of us really want it, though. I'm going to see about getting it done.
Feel free to chime in on this thread if you have thoughts you'd like to share on the subject.
Having a build server would be really helpful, IMHO. Glad you're taking it up again!
Looking forward to see the first blame mails delivered to squeak-dev. We'll torture the responsible with virtual cushions, at the least!
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