Google's hiring Smalltalk programmers and they run ads on my keywords 8-) Try it yourself:
- http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&q=smalltalk...
After half a dozen or so of manual refreshs, you will see their Smalltalk ad:
Smalltalk at Google? Dig SmallTalk & object oriented design? Get a Java XP job at Google www.google.com/jobs/
I run my squeak.org campaign now for 36 hours, during which their CPC bid was raised from pennies to bucks, between a factor of 50 and 100. My pockets are not deep enough to compete against Google's own ads, sorry ;-)
Nevertheless, running this campaign was quite an experience :)
/Klaus
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:09:14 +0100, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
Hi folks,
I've just started a $$ Google AdWords campaign and would like to receive feedback when you see www.squeak.org appearing in a Goole ad (wording, ad position, whatever your impression, please let me know).
I would appreciate if you DO*NOT*CLICK*THE*AD, because it costs me $$ per click, but if you cannot resist feel free to do so ;-)
/Klaus
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Actually, It looks to me like they want Java programmers - although they seem to recognize that Smalltalkers grok OO better than most.
- Bert -
On Nov 24, 2006, at 10:18 , Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
Google's hiring Smalltalk programmers and they run ads on my keywords 8-) Try it yourself:
ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&q=smalltalk&gl=US
After half a dozen or so of manual refreshs, you will see their Smalltalk ad:
Smalltalk at Google? Dig SmallTalk & object oriented design? Get a Java XP job at Google www.google.com/jobs/
I run my squeak.org campaign now for 36 hours, during which their CPC bid was raised from pennies to bucks, between a factor of 50 and 100. My pockets are not deep enough to compete against Google's own ads, sorry ;-)
Nevertheless, running this campaign was quite an experience :)
/Klaus
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:09:14 +0100, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
Hi folks,
I've just started a $$ Google AdWords campaign and would like to receive feedback when you see www.squeak.org appearing in a Goole ad (wording, ad position, whatever your impression, please let me know).
I would appreciate if you DO*NOT*CLICK*THE*AD, because it costs me $$ per click, but if you cannot resist feel free to do so ;-)
/Klaus
News mailing list News@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/news
Yes, so it looks. And pity is, a job @ Google's for a Smalltalk programmer equals a lost hand for the Smalltalk community, since she/he most likey cannot dance with both parties :(
/Klaus
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 10:52:31 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
Actually, It looks to me like they want Java programmers - although they seem to recognize that Smalltalkers grok OO better than most.
- Bert -
On Nov 24, 2006, at 10:18 , Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
Google's hiring Smalltalk programmers and they run ads on my keywords 8-) Try it yourself:
After half a dozen or so of manual refreshs, you will see their Smalltalk ad:
Smalltalk at Google? Dig SmallTalk & object oriented design? Get a Java XP job at Google www.google.com/jobs/
I run my squeak.org campaign now for 36 hours, during which their CPC bid was raised from pennies to bucks, between a factor of 50 and 100. My pockets are not deep enough to compete against Google's own ads, sorry ;-)
Nevertheless, running this campaign was quite an experience :)
/Klaus
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:09:14 +0100, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
Hi folks,
I've just started a $$ Google AdWords campaign and would like to receive feedback when you see www.squeak.org appearing in a Goole ad (wording, ad position, whatever your impression, please let me know).
I would appreciate if you DO*NOT*CLICK*THE*AD, because it costs me $$ per click, but if you cannot resist feel free to do so ;-)
/Klaus
News mailing list News@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/news
Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
I run my squeak.org campaign now for 36 hours, during which their CPC bid was raised from pennies to bucks, between a factor of 50 and 100. My pockets are not deep enough to compete against Google's own ads, sorry ;-)
Yikes! IMHO, that behaviour borders (if not crosses) the line on rigging the game - sort of like a casino modifying the odds to ensure the players always lose. In this case, they let the market find the hotspots to advertise, then they outbid you, and there's no way you can compete with their bid (as you found out).
AFAIK, if somebody elses bid is higher, your ad will be placed lower on the list, but still at the CPC you chose. Are you sure that you can't limit the CPC and still get a decent position in the ads list?
Matthias
On 11/24/06, Yanni Chiu yanni@rogers.com wrote:
Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
I run my squeak.org campaign now for 36 hours, during which their CPC bid was raised from pennies to bucks, between a factor of 50 and 100. My pockets are not deep enough to compete against Google's own ads, sorry ;-)
Yikes! IMHO, that behaviour borders (if not crosses) the line on rigging the game - sort of like a casino modifying the odds to ensure the players always lose. In this case, they let the market find the hotspots to advertise, then they outbid you, and there's no way you can compete with their bid (as you found out).
<ot>This may have been the idea, ages ago :) No, they tell you that you don't qualify and either have to improve a so called "QS" or bid at least the higher CPC. And only if you do the latter, they remove the "your keyword is inactive" message and calculate your position. See for example this discussion (look at the "boycotts" word, feedback is below the article):
- http://www.revenews.com/jimmydaniels/2006/07/inactive_keywords_the_google_a....
It is often even so, that in your own region/country no ad from a competitor is shown (i.e. advertisers aren't interested in your location) but their [the competitor's] bid dictates the minimum to bid, always globally. For example,
- http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&q=smalltalk...
doesn't show Google's ad but
- http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&q=smalltalk...
does.</ot>
/Klaus
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:45:20 +0100, Matthias Berth wrote:
AFAIK, if somebody elses bid is higher, your ad will be placed lower on the list, but still at the CPC you chose. Are you sure that you can't limit the CPC and still get a decent position in the ads list?
Matthias
On 11/24/06, Yanni Chiu yanni@rogers.com wrote:
Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
I run my squeak.org campaign now for 36 hours, during which their CPC bid was raised from pennies to bucks, between a factor of 50 and 100. My pockets are not deep enough to compete against Google's own ads, sorry ;-)
Yikes! IMHO, that behaviour borders (if not crosses) the line on rigging the game - sort of like a casino modifying the odds to ensure the players always lose. In this case, they let the market find the hotspots to advertise, then they outbid you, and there's no way you can compete with their bid (as you found out).
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