Have a look at
- http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation
and enjoy Open Source!
/Klaus
You don't have to kill, there's nothing recorded with your (SqP) author initials ;-)
- http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+Craig
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:14:22 +0200, Craig Latta wrote:
Ah, source code in files... (Kill! Kill! Kill! :)-C
You don't have to kill, there's nothing recorded with your (SqP) author initials ;-)
Phew; so at least I'm not making the problem worse, but that still leaves all those files that everyone else wrote, in all the other languages. :)
-C
There are other fun queries:
"i hate windows" http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=%22i+hate+windows%22&btnG=Search+Code "i hate you" http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=%22i+hate+you%22&btnG=Search+Code "running in hell" http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=en&lr=&q=%22running+in+hell%22+....
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
You don't have to kill, there's nothing recorded with your (SqP) author initials ;-)
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:14:22 +0200, Craig Latta wrote:
Ah, source code in files... (Kill! Kill! Kill! :)-C
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Have a look at
and enjoy Open Source!
No mcz :(
Philippe
Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions ...
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Have a look at
and enjoy Open Source!
No mcz :(
Philippe
It's just zip, like jar. And google does index SqueakSource quite well.
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions ...
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Have a look at
and enjoy Open Source!
No mcz :(
Philippe
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
It's just zip, like jar.
Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement.
And google does index SqueakSource quite well.
Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe.
/Klaus
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions ...
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Have a look at
and enjoy Open Source!
No mcz :(
Philippe
Oops, forgot to ask: do you have a google codesearch expression at hand which actually *finds* Smalltalk code on SqueakSource?
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:46:20 +0200, I wrote:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
It's just zip, like jar.
Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement.
And google does index SqueakSource quite well.
Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe.
/Klaus
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions ...
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Have a look at
and enjoy Open Source!
No mcz :(
Philippe
continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so it doesn't work.
But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented).
But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as zip too in the listing.... .... now that I think about it .... ;)
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Oops, forgot to ask: do you have a google codesearch expression at hand which actually *finds* Smalltalk code on SqueakSource?
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:46:20 +0200, I wrote:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
It's just zip, like jar.
Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement.
And google does index SqueakSource quite well.
Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe.
/Klaus
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions ...
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Have a look at
and enjoy Open Source!
No mcz :(
Philippe
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:17:18 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so it doesn't work.
Sure (it doesn't), therefore I asked. Seems that google hired too many 8.3 minded (versus: content-type-guessing minded) people recently ;-)
But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented).
But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as zip too in the listing....
Precisely. Thereafter I can forget about my idea on listing SqMap contents in a google-compliant fashion (which, how come no surprise, didn't generate much enthusiasm when I sent that email a year ago or so).
.... now that I think about it .... ;)
You have write access on SqueakSource? ;)
/Klaus
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Oops, forgot to ask: do you have a google codesearch expression at hand which actually *finds* Smalltalk code on SqueakSource?
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:46:20 +0200, I wrote:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
It's just zip, like jar.
Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement.
And google does index SqueakSource quite well.
Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe.
/Klaus
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions ...
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com: > Have a look at > > - http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation > > and enjoy Open Source!
No mcz :(
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:17:18 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so it doesn't work.
Sure (it doesn't), therefore I asked. Seems that google hired too many 8.3 minded (versus: content-type-guessing minded) people recently ;-)
But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented).
But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as zip too in the listing....
Precisely. Thereafter I can forget about my idea on listing SqMap contents in a google-compliant fashion (which, how come no surprise, didn't generate much enthusiasm when I sent that email a year ago or so).
.... now that I think about it .... ;)
You have write access on SqueakSource? ;)
Everybody has, the repository has public write access: http://www.squeaksource.com/ss.html
Adrian does the deployment.
Philippe
/Klaus
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Oops, forgot to ask: do you have a google codesearch expression at hand which actually *finds* Smalltalk code on SqueakSource?
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:46:20 +0200, I wrote:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
It's just zip, like jar.
Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement.
And google does index SqueakSource quite well.
Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe.
/Klaus
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file extensions ...
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com: >> Have a look at >> >> - http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation >> >> and enjoy Open Source! > > No mcz :( > > Philippe > >
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:56:44 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:17:18 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
.... now that I think about it .... ;)
You have write access on SqueakSource? ;)
Everybody has, the repository has public write access: http://www.squeaksource.com/ss.html
Sure, but I didn't mean the repository. I was thinking (and not writing) about the access rights of the server (and its http server config). How about this:
if any/google crawler comes along, present all the .mcz files as .zip files (and don't forget the camouflage content-type: application/zip).
Is this possible on Comanche/6.2 (Mac OS), dunno.
I know that this works with (a little config in) my browser, it opens .mcz files as .zip files here.
/Klaus
Adrian does the deployment.
Philippe
/Klaus
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Oops, forgot to ask: do you have a google codesearch expression at
hand
which actually *finds* Smalltalk code on SqueakSource?
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:46:20 +0200, I wrote:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
It's just zip, like jar.
Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement.
And google does index SqueakSource quite well.
Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe.
/Klaus
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com: > Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file
extensions
> ... > > /Klaus > > On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: > > > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com: > >> Have a look at > >> > >> -
http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation
> >> > >> and enjoy Open Source! > > > > No mcz :( > > > > Philippe > > >
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:56:44 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 12:17:18 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
.... now that I think about it .... ;)
You have write access on SqueakSource? ;)
Everybody has, the repository has public write access: http://www.squeaksource.com/ss.html
Sure, but I didn't mean the repository. I was thinking (and not writing) about the access rights of the server (and its http server config).
I have access to Adrian who does the deployments ;) In the past I never had problems to get changes accepted and deployed.
How about this:
if any/google crawler comes along, present all the .mcz files as .zip files (and don't forget the camouflage content-type: application/zip).
Is this possible on Comanche/6.2 (Mac OS), dunno.
I know that this works with (a little config in) my browser, it opens .mcz files as .zip files here.
As far as I can remember the files are directly served from within Seaside. The url handling code is a bit messy because there are all kind of things like static urls for directory listings, project pages, rss feeds. Some of these urls need sessions, others don't.
Philippe
/Klaus
Adrian does the deployment.
Philippe
/Klaus
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Oops, forgot to ask: do you have a google codesearch expression at
hand
which actually *finds* Smalltalk code on SqueakSource?
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:46:20 +0200, I wrote:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:42:15 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> It's just zip, like jar.
Yes I know, albeit that does not change one bit of my statement.
> And google does index SqueakSource quite well.
Very valuable info, that is. Thank you Philippe.
/Klaus
> Philippe > > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com: >> Didn't I write it: Open Source, not publicly unknown file
extensions
>> ... >> >> /Klaus >> >> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 11:15:06 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote: >> >> > 2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com: >> >> Have a look at >> >> >> >> -
http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=lang:smalltalk+continuation
>> >> >> >> and enjoy Open Source! >> > >> > No mcz :( >> > >> > Philippe >> > >> >
Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha scritto:
continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so it doesn't work.
But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented).
But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as zip too in the listing.... .... now that I think about it .... ;)
What about sending a mail to the Google Code team and working with them?
Giovanni
2006/10/8, Giovanni Corriga giovanni@corriga.net:
Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha scritto:
continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so it doesn't work.
But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented).
But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as zip too in the listing.... .... now that I think about it .... ;)
What about sending a mail to the Google Code team
Did that but you have to be realistic.
and working with them?
How should that work? Submit a patch? Get a job at Google?
Philippe
Il giorno dom, 08/10/2006 alle 13.45 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha scritto:
2006/10/8, Giovanni Corriga giovanni@corriga.net:
Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha scritto:
continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so it doesn't work.
But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented).
But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as zip too in the listing.... .... now that I think about it .... ;)
What about sending a mail to the Google Code team
Did that but you have to be realistic.
and working with them?
How should that work? Submit a patch? Get a job at Google?
While the last option is enticing (provided you don't end up working with Steve Yegge), just telling them that a .mcz is a zip under disguise could be enough. After all, they are the one interested in indexing as much code as they can.
Giovanni
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:45:36 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/8, Giovanni Corriga wrote:
Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha scritto:
continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so it doesn't work.
But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented).
But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as zip too in the listing.... .... now that I think about it .... ;)
What about sending a mail to the Google Code team
Did that but you have to be realistic.
Why would the google crawler index http://www.squeaksource.com/<put id here>/ , are there hyperlinks pointing to SqueakSource projects and/or is there a (session-less) SqueakSource page which presents hyperlinks of all projects to the crawler?
and working with them?
How should that work? Submit a patch? Get a job at Google?
Tell them (or blog it) that their competitor is doing it (krugle also don't know about .mcz, but: who knows, all squeak-dev members please send them email):
/Klaus
Philippe
2006/10/8, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:45:36 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/8, Giovanni Corriga wrote:
Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha scritto:
continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not indexed) so it doesn't work.
But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented).
But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files as zip too in the listing.... .... now that I think about it .... ;)
What about sending a mail to the Google Code team
Did that but you have to be realistic.
Why would the google crawler index http://www.squeaksource.com/<put id here>/ , are there hyperlinks pointing to SqueakSource projects and/or is there a (session-less) SqueakSource page which presents hyperlinks of all projects to the crawler?
Because google knows anything ;) http://www.google.ch/search?q=shorecomponents (2nd hit)
and working with them?
How should that work? Submit a patch? Get a job at Google?
Tell them (or blog it) that their competitor is doing it (krugle also don't know about .mcz, but: who knows, all squeak-dev members please send them email):
Maybe we should start marketing SqueakSource as Web 2.0 of source code management.
I mean we have: - wikis - rss feeds - tags - collaboration - user content - run on a Mac (a real one, not a soulless MacPC) ;) - dynamic languages - continuations/seaside - a vcs that beats the crap out of everything that is file based - ...
A blog post from Avi could make a real impact.
Philippe
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:37:29 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/8, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:45:36 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/8, Giovanni Corriga wrote:
Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha scritto:
continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not
indexed) so
it doesn't work.
But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented).
But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files
as
zip too in the listing.... .... now that I think about it .... ;)
What about sending a mail to the Google Code team
Did that but you have to be realistic.
Why would the google crawler index http://www.squeaksource.com/<put id here>/ , are there hyperlinks pointing to SqueakSource projects and/or is there a (session-less) SqueakSource page which presents hyperlinks of all projects to the crawler?
Because google knows anything ;) http://www.google.ch/search?q=shorecomponents (2nd hit)
Hhm, did the meaning of *all projects* change recently?
- http://www.google.com/search?q=pier+seaside+squeak+site%3Awww.squeaksource.c...
and working with them?
How should that work? Submit a patch? Get a job at Google?
...
Maybe we should start marketing SqueakSource as Web 2.0 of source code management.
:) why not, if it works.
/Klaus
I mean we have:
- wikis
- rss feeds
- tags
- collaboration
- user content
- run on a Mac (a real one, not a soulless MacPC) ;)
- dynamic languages
- continuations/seaside
- a vcs that beats the crap out of everything that is file based
- ...
A blog post from Avi could make a real impact.
Philippe
2006/10/8, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:37:29 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/8, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:45:36 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/8, Giovanni Corriga wrote:
Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha scritto:
continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not
indexed) so
it doesn't work.
But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource, most matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's implemented).
But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz files
as
zip too in the listing.... .... now that I think about it .... ;)
What about sending a mail to the Google Code team
Did that but you have to be realistic.
Why would the google crawler index http://www.squeaksource.com/<put id here>/ , are there hyperlinks pointing to SqueakSource projects and/or is there a (session-less) SqueakSource page which presents hyperlinks of all projects to the crawler?
Because google knows anything ;) http://www.google.ch/search?q=shorecomponents (2nd hit)
Hhm, did the meaning of *all projects* change recently?
Pier is hosted at mc.lukas-renggli.ch (currently down)
But if it had to be building a google sitemap for squeaksource would be easy.
Philippe
http://www.google.com/search?q=pier+seaside+squeak+site%3Awww.squeaksource.c...
and working with them?
How should that work? Submit a patch? Get a job at Google?
...
Maybe we should start marketing SqueakSource as Web 2.0 of source code management.
:) why not, if it works.
/Klaus
I mean we have:
- wikis
- rss feeds
- tags
- collaboration
- user content
- run on a Mac (a real one, not a soulless MacPC) ;)
- dynamic languages
- continuations/seaside
- a vcs that beats the crap out of everything that is file based
- ...
A blog post from Avi could make a real impact.
Philippe
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:02:13 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/8, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:37:29 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/8, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:45:36 +0200, Philippe Marschall wrote:
2006/10/8, Giovanni Corriga wrote:
Il giorno sab, 07/10/2006 alle 12.17 +0200, Philippe Marschall ha scritto: > continuation lang:smalltalk site:squeaksource.com > but it looks like site is not implemented (and mcz are not
indexed) so
> it doesn't work. > > But considering the amout of code available at SqueakSource,
most
> matches probably will be from there anyway (once it's
implemented).
> > But I think we could play dirty little tricks. List the mcz
files
as
> zip too in the listing.... > .... now that I think about it .... ;)
What about sending a mail to the Google Code team
Did that but you have to be realistic.
Why would the google crawler index http://www.squeaksource.com/<put
id
here>/ , are there hyperlinks pointing to SqueakSource projects
and/or
is there a (session-less) SqueakSource page which presents hyperlinks of all projects to the crawler?
Because google knows anything ;) http://www.google.ch/search?q=shorecomponents (2nd hit)
Hhm, did the meaning of *all projects* change recently?
Pier is hosted at mc.lukas-renggli.ch (currently down)
:(
But if it had to be building a google sitemap for squeaksource would be easy.
I hereby volunteer to submitting the new sitemap's URL to the crawler(s) ...
/Klaus
Philippe
http://www.google.com/search?q=pier+seaside+squeak+site%3Awww.squeaksource.c...
and working with them?
How should that work? Submit a patch? Get a job at Google?
...
Maybe we should start marketing SqueakSource as Web 2.0 of source code management.
:) why not, if it works.
/Klaus
I mean we have:
- wikis
- rss feeds
- tags
- collaboration
- user content
- run on a Mac (a real one, not a soulless MacPC) ;)
- dynamic languages
- continuations/seaside
- a vcs that beats the crap out of everything that is file based
- ...
A blog post from Avi could make a real impact.
Philippe
2006/10/7, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com:
Have a look at
and enjoy Open Source!
There is even more fun: http://www.kottke.org/06/10/google-code-search
Philippe
Hi folks,
I've just finished posting .gz, .tar.gz and .zip URLs from the release related subdirectories of - http://ftp.squeak.org/
using this form <phew/> - http://www.google.com/codesearch/addcode
Ken: is there a way to find out what crawlers access http://ftp.squeak.org/
/Klaus
On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 07:19:04 +0200, Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel@cobss.com wrote:
Have a look at
and enjoy Open Source!
/Klaus
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