From: Andreas Raab andreas.raab@gmx.de
Gary Dunn wrote:
I was reading about SqueakMap and came across the Swiki page for Alice
The Wiki is extremely outdated.
Is anyone actively using Alice in Squeak?
I do work on some aspects from time to time. The most recent work can be found here: http://squeaksource.com/Balloon3D.html
Cheers,
Andreas
I am more interested in teaching with Alice than creating 3D images. Any educators here doing that? With the Saueak version rather than the Java version.
2009/7/22 Gary Dunn osp@aloha.com:
From: Andreas Raab andreas.raab@gmx.de
Gary Dunn wrote:
I was reading about SqueakMap and came across the Swiki page for Alice
The Wiki is extremely outdated.
Is anyone actively using Alice in Squeak?
I do work on some aspects from time to time. The most recent work can be found here: http://squeaksource.com/Balloon3D.html
Cheers, - Andreas
I am more interested in teaching with Alice than creating 3D images. Any educators here doing that? With the Saueak version rather than the Java version.
Gary, i suppose you heard about Croquet/OpenCobalt. Why you don't want to use them instead?
-- Gary Dunn, Honolulu osp@aloha.com http://openslate.net/ http://e9erust.blogspot.com/ Sent from a Newton 2100 via Mail V
Igor Stasenko wrote:
Gary, i suppose you heard about Croquet/OpenCobalt. Why you don't want to use them instead?
Because neither is geared towards teaching how to program. Unless you are planning to give a course on how to build a replicated 3D environment, the learning curve will be a bit steep ;-) There isn't even any scripting to talk of in Croquet / Cobalt. Except from some initial experiments we never got around to doing anything in that direction.
Cheers, - Andreas
Hi Gary -
The 3D modeling stuff comes on top of Alice. It can be used to create some initial content more easily (scripting cubes and spheres is fun, but it's even more fun to script *your* objects). In particular because you can use photographs etc. and have the students really *be* their own avatars. Try it some time and you'll see how much fun it actually is.
Cheers, - Andreas
Gary Dunn wrote:
From: Andreas Raab andreas.raab@gmx.de
Gary Dunn wrote:
I was reading about SqueakMap and came across the Swiki page for Alice
The Wiki is extremely outdated.
Is anyone actively using Alice in Squeak?
I do work on some aspects from time to time. The most recent work can be found here: http://squeaksource.com/Balloon3D.html
Cheers,
Andreas
I am more interested in teaching with Alice than creating 3D images. Any educators here doing that? With the Saueak version rather than the Java version.
Gary,
I went to an Alice seminar a couple of years ago and agree that it would be great to have an Alice curriculum written in Squeak for learning Squeak. I hope to be rallying some resources through my research institute (located in Southern Caliofnria) towards getting this project moving forward sometime next year.
Donna Schrokosch, Founder, Hawthorne Center for Innovation
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From: Andreas Raab andreas.raab@gmx.de
Gary Dunn wrote:
I was reading about SqueakMap and came across the Swiki page for Alice
The Wiki is extremely outdated.
Is anyone actively using Alice in Squeak?
I do work on some aspects from time to time. The most recent work can be found here: http://squeaksource.com/Balloon3D.html
Cheers,
Andreas
I am more interested in teaching with Alice than creating 3D images. Any educators here doing that? With the Saueak version rather than the Java version.
Donna wrote:
I ... agree that it would be great to have an Alice curriculum written in Squeak for learning Squeak.
The tutorials and demos I saw implied (to me) that the Alice language, while powerful, is more or less self-contained. What aspects of Squeak could a student learn through an Alice curriculum?
David
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