[Help][Extending the system][Squeak5.2] Are the four entries there still relevant for 5.2?
Hello
There are four entries in the help system [1]
Squeak -> The Project -> Extending the system
Are they still relevant. Or what else should go there instead?
For example it would be nice to have the install script for NuScratch [2]
Regards Hannes
[1] OCompletion "Provides source code completion as you type" (Installer ss project: 'OCompletion') install: 'Ocompletion'. (Smalltalk at: #ECToolSet) register. (Smalltalk at: #ToolSet) default: (Smalltalk at: #ECToolSet).
Omnibrowser "Including Refactoring engine" (Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository') install: 'ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser'. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser) project perform: #lastVersion) load: #( Dev ).
Pier CMS "Pier CMS: http://www.piercms.com" (Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository') install: 'ConfigurationOfPier2'. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPier2) load.
(Installer lukas project: 'pier2') install: 'Pier-Blog'. (Installer lukas project: 'pier2') install: 'Pier-Book'. (Installer lukas project: 'pier2addons') install: 'Pier-Setup'. (Smalltalk at: #PRDistribution) new register.
Open Cobalt
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[2] http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6604
Scratch is a visual programming language and online community targeted primarily at children [Wikipedia]. It started with a first implementation in Squeak Smalltalk, then it was reimplemented in Flash (ActionScript) and now in JavaScript (more about Scratch see here).
The Smalltalk based implementation has been maintained and improved and is available under the Name 'NuScratch' to be loaded as an application into a Squeak base system.
On 27-06-2018, at 10:55 PM, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
There are four entries in the help system [1]
Squeak -> The Project -> Extending the system
The comment is that they are not documented in SqueakMap or Installer - so the proper solution must surely be to make sure they are all correctly set up in SM/Installer and then delete that section.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- One of the early failures of electroshock therapy.
First: We have to check what these projects are for and if they are useful. And if they load at all (I did not do that)
Second: I think it is actually good to have some 'featured' projects there ...
On 6/28/18, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 27-06-2018, at 10:55 PM, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
There are four entries in the help system [1]
Squeak -> The Project -> Extending the system
The comment is that they are not documented in SqueakMap or Installer - so the proper solution must surely be to make sure they are all correctly set up in SM/Installer and then delete that section.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- One of the early failures of electroshock therapy.
Proposal for one of the 4 entries:
The Omnibrowser is not usable in Squeak anymore and also not being developed anymore either. Replace it with RefactoringTools, see thread
[squeak-dev] Browser menu interface to refactorings
--Hannes
On 6/28/18, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
First: We have to check what these projects are for and if they are useful. And if they load at all (I did not do that)
Second: I think it is actually good to have some 'featured' projects there ...
On 6/28/18, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 27-06-2018, at 10:55 PM, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
There are four entries in the help system [1]
Squeak -> The Project -> Extending the system
The comment is that they are not documented in SqueakMap or Installer - so the proper solution must surely be to make sure they are all correctly set up in SM/Installer and then delete that section.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- One of the early failures of electroshock therapy.
The Omnibrowser script [1] does not work anymore because http://seaside.gemstone.com/ is not find. There are probably other reasons why it does not work. And it is not supported anymore.
So in any case it is better to replace it with the load script for the refactoring engine. See thread 'Browser menu interface to refactorings'
--Hannes
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[1] Omnibrowser "Including Refactoring engine" (Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository') install: 'ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser'. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser) project perform: #lastVersion) load: #( Dev ).
On 7/2/18, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Proposal for one of the 4 entries:
The Omnibrowser is not usable in Squeak anymore and also not being developed anymore either. Replace it with RefactoringTools, see thread
[squeak-dev] Browser menu interface to refactorings--Hannes
On 6/28/18, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
First: We have to check what these projects are for and if they are useful. And if they load at all (I did not do that)
Second: I think it is actually good to have some 'featured' projects there ...
On 6/28/18, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 27-06-2018, at 10:55 PM, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
There are four entries in the help system [1]
Squeak -> The Project -> Extending the system
The comment is that they are not documented in SqueakMap or Installer - so the proper solution must surely be to make sure they are all correctly set up in SM/Installer and then delete that section.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- One of the early failures of electroshock therapy.
Loading the PierCMS does not work either because because http://seaside.gemstone.com/ is not found. [2]
OCompletion and OpenCobalt give errors.
So all entries need to be updated / replaced.
Proposals taken from FunSqueak
-Refactoring Engine (with a 'caveat' entry) -Connectors -NuScratch -MathMorphs -TiledMaps
[2]
"Pier CMS: http://www.piercms.com" (Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository') install: 'ConfigurationOfPier2'. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPier2) load.
(Installer lukas project: 'pier2') install: 'Pier-Blog'. (Installer lukas project: 'pier2') install: 'Pier-Book'. (Installer lukas project: 'pier2addons') install: 'Pier-Setup'. (Smalltalk at: #PRDistribution) new register.
On 9/7/18, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
The Omnibrowser script [1] does not work anymore because http://seaside.gemstone.com/ is not find. There are probably other reasons why it does not work. And it is not supported anymore.
So in any case it is better to replace it with the load script for the refactoring engine. See thread 'Browser menu interface to refactorings'
--Hannes
[1] Omnibrowser "Including Refactoring engine" (Installer ss project: 'MetacelloRepository') install: 'ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser'. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser) project perform: #lastVersion) load: #( Dev ).
On 7/2/18, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Proposal for one of the 4 entries:
The Omnibrowser is not usable in Squeak anymore and also not being developed anymore either. Replace it with RefactoringTools, see thread
[squeak-dev] Browser menu interface to refactorings--Hannes
On 6/28/18, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
First: We have to check what these projects are for and if they are useful. And if they load at all (I did not do that)
Second: I think it is actually good to have some 'featured' projects there ...
On 6/28/18, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 27-06-2018, at 10:55 PM, H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
There are four entries in the help system [1]
Squeak -> The Project -> Extending the system
The comment is that they are not documented in SqueakMap or Installer - so the proper solution must surely be to make sure they are all correctly set up in SM/Installer and then delete that section.
tim
tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful random insult:- One of the early failures of electroshock therapy.
http://www.piercms.com seems not working My last use of Pier was in 4.1 time Still have a old working .image with all unneeded striped Today I check
MCHttpRepository location: 'http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier2' user: '' password: ''
Still exists and have newer things I do not.
Anyway insist doing web 2.0 is using lots of external things. Craig Caffeine is how. Mine HV2 modified is useful for prototype, then use Node.js with the same folder structure.
Edgar @morplenauta
On 07/09/2018, 05:41, "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Loading the PierCMS does not work either because
because http://seaside.gemstone.com/ is not found. [2]
OCompletion
and OpenCobalt give errors.
So all entries need to be updated /
replaced.
Proposals taken from FunSqueak
-Refactoring Engine (with a
'caveat' entry)
-Connectors -NuScratch -MathMorphs -TiledMaps
[2]
"Pier
CMS: http://www.piercms.com"
I understand that the piercms is no longer maintained.
The point of discussion for the Squeak release is that the load script for the PierCMS should be removed and be replaced with an interesting current larger piece of software which is maintained.
Your current Fun Squeak image includes some candidates.
--Hannes
On 9/7/18, Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2005@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.piercms.com seems not working My last use of Pier was in 4.1 time Still have a old working .image with all unneeded striped Today I check
MCHttpRepository location: 'http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier2' user: '' password: ''
Still exists and have newer things I do not.
Anyway insist doing web 2.0 is using lots of external things. Craig Caffeine is how. Mine HV2 modified is useful for prototype, then use Node.js with the same folder structure.
Edgar @morplenauta
On 07/09/2018, 05:41, "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
Loading the PierCMS does not work either because
because http://seaside.gemstone.com/ is not found. [2]
OCompletion
and OpenCobalt give errors.
So all entries need to be updated /
replaced.
Proposals taken from FunSqueak
-Refactoring Engine (with a
'caveat' entry)
-Connectors -NuScratch -MathMorphs -TiledMaps
[2]
"Pier
CMS: http://www.piercms.com"
Last Omnibrowser was loaded and funtion in FunSqueakCog4.3-11720-alpha
In Ladrillos Name: OmniBrowser-cwp.453 Author: edcc Time: 29 March 2015, 1:01:00.39 am
You think we could try this old and see? Also in the "dungeons" have a .sar and several ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser
http://seaside.gemstone.com/ is not find.
Is why have my site and try to backup all I think is useful. Unlucky us, not all
Edgar @morplenauta
On 07/09/2018, 05:24, "H. Hirzel" hannes.hirzel@gmail.com wrote:
The Omnibrowser script [1] does not work anymore because
http://seaside.gemstone.com/ is not find. There are probably
other
reasons why it does not work. And it is not supported anymore.
So in
any case it is better to replace it with the load script for the
refactoring
engine. See thread 'Browser menu interface to
refactorings'
--Hannes
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