Hi, Has anybody made a dark theme for Squeak with dark window background etc.
My eyes are becoming much more sensitive to the bright white background, so a dark theme would be nice to switch to :-)
Best, Karl
Thank you! I hear you, I can hardly tolerate this black-on-white at night anymore, obliterates contrast in a room with lower light (which is how I prefer to work late at night).
Back for Squeak 3.8, I made the "inverteBright" package, its on SqueakMap, but I have not tested it in 5.0. It is basically a bunch of hacks IIRC...
On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 10:22 AM, karl ramberg karlramberg@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Has anybody made a dark theme for Squeak with dark window background etc.
My eyes are becoming much more sensitive to the bright white background, so a dark theme would be nice to switch to :-)
Best, Karl
There is no need to change anything in Squeak for that. There is software like f.lux [1] that adapts color temperature according to the daylight. :)
Alternatively: Have you tried: "Color black become: Color white"?
Best, Marcel
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2016, marcel.taeumel wrote:
There is no need to change anything in Squeak for that. There is software like f.lux [1] that adapts color temperature according to the daylight. :)
It quickly becomes annoying seeing everything in red late in the evening.
Levente
Alternatively: Have you tried: "Color black become: Color white"?
Best, Marcel
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yeah i tried that app too, very annoying and i love dark themes.
On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 8:53 PM Levente Uzonyi leves@caesar.elte.hu wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2016, marcel.taeumel wrote:
There is no need to change anything in Squeak for that. There is software like f.lux [1] that adapts color temperature according to the daylight.
:)
It quickly becomes annoying seeing everything in red late in the evening.
Levente
Alternatively: Have you tried: "Color black become: Color white"?
Best, Marcel
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Squeak needs working Themes to serve a variety of use-cases, not just a Dark theme.
I think we should move Preferences state to the instance-side, and add a #preferences accessor to PasteUpMorph and then change all the code to look up all preferences and colors through "self world". Let each PasteUpMorph have its own preferences..
And implementing a suitable Preferences>>#veryDeepInner: for deepCopy support should be trivial..
On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:50 AM, marcel.taeumel Marcel.Taeumel@hpi.de wrote:
There is no need to change anything in Squeak for that. There is software like f.lux [1] that adapts color temperature according to the daylight. :)
Alternatively: Have you tried: "Color black become: Color white"?
Best, Marcel
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On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 01:50:12PM -0600, Chris Muller wrote:
Squeak needs working Themes to serve a variety of use-cases, not just a Dark theme.
I think we should move Preferences state to the instance-side, and add a #preferences accessor to PasteUpMorph and then change all the code to look up all preferences and colors through "self world". Let each PasteUpMorph have its own preferences..
Good idea, but it would be best if you can associate the preference with either "Project current" or "Project current uiManager", not with the world. That will keep things tidy on the MVC side (where Project current world is a ControlManager).
Dave
And implementing a suitable Preferences>>#veryDeepInner: for deepCopy support should be trivial..
On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:50 AM, marcel.taeumel Marcel.Taeumel@hpi.de wrote:
There is no need to change anything in Squeak for that. There is software like f.lux [1] that adapts color temperature according to the daylight. :)
Alternatively: Have you tried: "Color black become: Color white"?
Best, Marcel
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On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 3:42 PM, David T. Lewis lewis@mail.msen.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 01:50:12PM -0600, Chris Muller wrote:
Squeak needs working Themes to serve a variety of use-cases, not just a Dark theme.
I think we should move Preferences state to the instance-side, and add a #preferences accessor to PasteUpMorph and then change all the code to look up all preferences and colors through "self world". Let each PasteUpMorph have its own preferences..
Good idea, but it would be best if you can associate the preference with either "Project current" or "Project current uiManager", not with the world. That will keep things tidy on the MVC side (where Project current world is a ControlManager).
Fair enough. Project current, not its uiManager.
Changing the preferences to world level might improve switching themes but not implementing them. :-) This comes later. First, we should watch out for magic/hard-coded numbers/values and re-direct them through preferences (with caching as appropriate like ScrollPanes do.)
Best, Marcel
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Then, I think, themes affect mainly fonts and colors and other preference-like things. I don't think we need to prepare for fundamentally different #drawOn: methods/implementations/behavior in various morphs. Back then, in my opinion, "Poly Morph" overdid it somehow. Programming the GUI for tools got more challenging than it had to be.
Besides creating morphs according to the current preferences, we should think about how to update existing instances. For colors, there is SystemWindow class >> refreshAllWindows and TheWorldMainDockingBar class >> #updateInstances. There is also ScrollBar class >> #refreshAllScrollBars. But this is rather specific and not reusable without carefully copy-and-paste. They make use of #allSubInstances -- is this the best way of doing it?
Coming back to the original problem in this thread: Yes, we should add a preference to specify the background color in lists, trees, and text fields. Should be easy. :)
Best, Marcel
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On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:26 AM, marcel.taeumel Marcel.Taeumel@hpi.de wrote:
Then, I think, themes affect mainly fonts and colors and other preference-like things. I don't think we need to prepare for fundamentally different #drawOn: methods/implementations/behavior in various morphs. Back then, in my opinion, "Poly Morph" overdid it somehow. Programming the GUI for tools got more challenging than it had to be.
Besides creating morphs according to the current preferences, we should think about how to update existing instances. For colors, there is SystemWindow class >> refreshAllWindows and TheWorldMainDockingBar class >> #updateInstances. There is also ScrollBar class >> #refreshAllScrollBars. But this is rather specific and not reusable without carefully copy-and-paste. They make use of #allSubInstances -- is this the best way of doing it?
Coming back to the original problem in this thread: Yes, we should add a preference to specify the background color in lists, trees, and text fields. Should be easy. :)
Sounds promising ;-)
Best, Karl
Best, Marcel
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Squeak needs working Themes to serve a variety of use-cases, not just a Dark theme. For example, a Presentation theme with cranked-up font sizes.
I think we should move Preferences state to the instance-side, and let each PasteUpMorph have its own Preferences.
On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 11:50 AM, marcel.taeumel Marcel.Taeumel@hpi.de wrote:
There is no need to change anything in Squeak for that. There is software like f.lux [1] that adapts color temperature according to the daylight. :)
Alternatively: Have you tried: "Color black become: Color white"?
Best, Marcel
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