JJ,
We have a small process-synchronization problem: we're writing emails at the same time :) Your recent message would likely alter my recent message. Please consider that as you read, if only retroactively.
My experience is that users will gladly tolerate some unfamiliar appearance (aka deviation from platform standards) as long as software does what they want, quickly, intuitively, and robustly. One more pass on the broken record: they care about feel far more than they care about look.
We seem to want many of the same things for and from Squeak. I would simply urge you to prioritize some of the other items I have mentioned (ANSI/underscore, end of stream errors, morphic feel) over native look and packaging. Between native look and packaging, look is probably the more important topic for the community. The packaging side is something that a single developer can do, and your recent message referencing RPM etc. shows that you already have ideas on how to do it. The result would easily be distributed as one or more items on SM.
Happy Smalltalking!
Bill
Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
Email: bills@anest4.anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029
From: "Bill Schwab" BSchwab@anest.ufl.edu Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers listsqueak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org To: squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: Making Squeak more accessible and used - reversing thetrend Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2007 10:54:38 -0500
JJ,
We have a small process-synchronization problem: we're writing emails at the same time :) Your recent message would likely alter my recent message. Please consider that as you read, if only retroactively.
Hehe, that happens sometimes.
My experience is that users will gladly tolerate some unfamiliar appearance (aka deviation from platform standards) as long as software does what they want, quickly, intuitively, and robustly. One more pass on the broken record: they care about feel far more than they care about look.
We seem to want many of the same things for and from Squeak. I would simply urge you to prioritize some of the other items I have mentioned (ANSI/underscore, end of stream errors, morphic feel) over native look and packaging. Between native look and packaging, look is probably the more important topic for the community. The packaging side is something that a single developer can do, and your recent message referencing RPM etc. shows that you already have ideas on how to do it. The result would easily be distributed as one or more items on SM.
Well, is there any place where we have a list of priorities of the community? If so, maybe we should give it a look and see if it still reflects reality and what things we can knock off the list.
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