We now have 342 users registered at
http://people.squeakfoundation.org
of those 68 have never been certified by anyone and I suspect a large number of those are invalid/non-Squeak community accounts.
I would like to call on everyone to go through the list of people paying particular attention to those marked as Observer. If you know the person, and are reasonably certain they created the account, and if the person has any real interest in Squeak at all, go ahead and assign them at least Apprentice certification. If you know the person but are unsure whether they created the account, please check with them to be sure before certifying them.
If you know them but know that their interest in Squeak was merely fleeting, or they registered on the site not realizing that it had anything to do with actual community status, please ask them whether they are sure they need the account. If so, at least request that they add some real information about themselves so it makes it easier to tell the real from the bogus accounts. If not, please have them contact me and I would be quite happy to remove their account.
Similarly I see that a few people have created more than one account. Possibly because they forgot they had the account or because they forgot the password to their original account. Again if this fits you contact me and we will discuss what to do.
Also, everyone should go through their own account information and make sure it is accurate and reasonably up to date.
If you have forgotten your password, contact me.
Thanks,
Ken
Oh, and I forgot to mention, if you email me about an account, yours or anyone else's, please include the account name in the email. Thanks.
Ken
On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 15:25 -0600, Ken Causey wrote:
We now have 342 users registered at
http://people.squeakfoundation.org
of those 68 have never been certified by anyone and I suspect a large number of those are invalid/non-Squeak community accounts.
I would like to call on everyone to go through the list of people paying particular attention to those marked as Observer. If you know the person, and are reasonably certain they created the account, and if the person has any real interest in Squeak at all, go ahead and assign them at least Apprentice certification. If you know the person but are unsure whether they created the account, please check with them to be sure before certifying them.
If you know them but know that their interest in Squeak was merely fleeting, or they registered on the site not realizing that it had anything to do with actual community status, please ask them whether they are sure they need the account. If so, at least request that they add some real information about themselves so it makes it easier to tell the real from the bogus accounts. If not, please have them contact me and I would be quite happy to remove their account.
Similarly I see that a few people have created more than one account. Possibly because they forgot they had the account or because they forgot the password to their original account. Again if this fits you contact me and we will discuss what to do.
Also, everyone should go through their own account information and make sure it is accurate and reasonably up to date.
If you have forgotten your password, contact me.
Thanks,
Ken
On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 15:25 -0600, Ken Causey wrote:
We now have 342 users registered at
http://people.squeakfoundation.org
of those 68 have never been certified by anyone and I suspect a large number of those are invalid/non-Squeak community accounts.
Hi,
I spent a little time the last week looking at people.squeakfoundation. I'm a developer which has now about 12 years of experience in programming. I'm monitoring squeak since 1998. And now I got the chance to do a real project with squeak, seaside,....
My experience with people.squeakfoundation is the following. I don't remember when I signed up. Signing up is exciting every time you do because you like to be a part of it. But in my opinion people.squeakfoundation is very frustrating at first place. You can sign up easily but then you are stuck. You can do nothing being an Observer. Why should I come back? I recognized this reading your article complaining about the actual status of the site. Being an Observer I couldn't post an answer to your article. Why should I use the side? Should I come back every week looking if someone was willing to raise my status? But then I write down which projects I like while I'm not able to click on the projects as you suppose being an Observer.
You wrote about the misuse of the login name. But then why is there a choice for the username? Wouldn't it be feasible to use the combination FirstnameLastname as login account? For me I find your critics right but I can't change my username to something more known (ok I'm still unknown :) ). I think the only thing people know is the email address and possibly the real name of other people. This is my guess thinking that most of the people know each other from the mailing list.
I think there is more to fix then the usage of the users.
My two cents,
Norbert
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 00:43 +0100, Norbert Hartl wrote:
On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 15:25 -0600, Ken Causey wrote:
We now have 342 users registered at
http://people.squeakfoundation.org
of those 68 have never been certified by anyone and I suspect a large number of those are invalid/non-Squeak community accounts.
Hi,
I spent a little time the last week looking at people.squeakfoundation. I'm a developer which has now about 12 years of experience in programming. I'm monitoring squeak since 1998. And now I got the chance to do a real project with squeak, seaside,....
My experience with people.squeakfoundation is the following. I don't remember when I signed up.
You signed up on the 18th which you can tell from the entry in the Recent People Joining list (as long as it remains in the list of course:
18 Nov 2006 noha
Signing up is exciting every time you do because you like to be a part of it. But in my opinion people.squeakfoundation is very frustrating at first place. You can sign up easily but then you are stuck. You can do nothing being an Observer. Why should I come back? I recognized this reading your article complaining about the actual status of the site. Being an Observer I couldn't post an answer to your article. Why should I use the side? Should I come back every week looking if someone was willing to raise my status? But then I write down which projects I like while I'm not able to click on the projects as you suppose being an Observer.
OK, first of all, I won't deny that there is little immediate gratification. I think you've noticed that you can at least use the diary (since you added an entry, blank though it is) immediately. To a large extent you have to be patient. Not a lot of us are actively watching for new people and certifying. On that note though I distinctly remember going through the list since the eighteenth and while I can't specifically remember looking at your entry, if I missed it it was accidental. Also, if you had the information then that you have now I would certainly have given you Apprentice status (which I have now done). If you did then I have to apologize for missing you somehow. Also it's probably been nearly a week since I last checked.
You wrote about the misuse of the login name. But then why is there a choice for the username? Wouldn't it be feasible to use the combination FirstnameLastname as login account? For me I find your critics right but I can't change my username to something more known (ok I'm still unknown :) ). I think the only thing people know is the email address and possibly the real name of other people. This is my guess thinking that most of the people know each other from the mailing list.
I think there is more to fix then the usage of the users.
I certainly won't deny that there is a LOT that could be better about people.squeakfoundation.org. You're not going to find me (or the person who originally set it up) defending it as the be-all end-all of social sites. This site is more or less a quick setup of the Advogato system (an old Apache 1.x module VirguleDb written in of course C). Since it is C most of us cringe when we thing about modifying it. A Squeak based replacement has certainly been discussed. But the reality around here is that there are always more ideas than time. So in practice we just do the best we can with what we have and try to prioritize. I can't say that an improved system is a terribly high priority at this time.
As far as the issue of your username. If you really wish to have it changed let me know to what you would like it changed and I will see what I can do.
My two cents,
Norbert
Thanks,
Ken
P.S. Certification updates are done by a cronjob and so don't occur immediately. If you check it and are still an Observer, be patient and check back again later.
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