Perhaps you've forgotten or didn't notice but I tried to resign as the Box-Admins Team Leader more than a year ago:
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-January/143901.h...
Since that time I have simply done what I felt was necessary to maintain the status quo. I have neither the time nor interest in making large changes to our hosting infrastructure.
The reality is that I'm an OK system administrator but a terrible manager, and I haven't found anyone willing and capable to take over or assist in any significant way. I suspect that we don't have very many people in this community with system administration experience and willingness and time to do the work.
As a community I think we really need to think hard about how we want to move forward regarding the services we use within the community. I've always been a strong proponent of 'eating our own dogfood' but we've done very little in the last year or two progressing and even significantly maintaining our own services infrastructure.
I suggest we strongly considered leveraging managed services in the vein of github, Google code, etc. I simply don't see that we have the will to manage these services ourselves in the immediate future.
I can continue as I have been for a while, but we can't continue like this forever. I just don't have the interest in doing this work anymore beyond what is absolutely necessary.
Ken Causey
Thanks for the reminder, Ken.
Anyone who would like to join the box-admins team, please send a note to board@lists.squeakfoundation.org. We will take up the issue at the next board meeting and find a replacement for Ken.
- Chris
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Ken Causey ken@kencausey.com wrote:
Perhaps you've forgotten or didn't notice but I tried to resign as the Box-Admins Team Leader more than a year ago:
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-January/143901.h...
Since that time I have simply done what I felt was necessary to maintain the status quo. I have neither the time nor interest in making large changes to our hosting infrastructure.
The reality is that I'm an OK system administrator but a terrible manager, and I haven't found anyone willing and capable to take over or assist in any significant way. I suspect that we don't have very many people in this community with system administration experience and willingness and time to do the work.
As a community I think we really need to think hard about how we want to move forward regarding the services we use within the community. I've always been a strong proponent of 'eating our own dogfood' but we've done very little in the last year or two progressing and even significantly maintaining our own services infrastructure.
I suggest we strongly considered leveraging managed services in the vein of github, Google code, etc. I simply don't see that we have the will to manage these services ourselves in the immediate future.
I can continue as I have been for a while, but we can't continue like this forever. I just don't have the interest in doing this work anymore beyond what is absolutely necessary.
Ken Causey
I'd consider it as well if the role was well defined and Ken et al were willing to provide some back up while I ramp up on ops stuff. My whole world has revolved around software development on UNIX, so I'm at least familiar with the environment, and I spent some time working with the architects at WhitePages.com, so I'm at least somewhat hip to issues/solutions of scale (not that we'd need much in the way of scale just yet!)
I do agree with Ken that we should consider unloading some of the burden. I think there are lots of free services out there that can provide a better level of service than we can in many cases, and I don't think control-for-controls sake makes sense.
On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:22 PM, "Ken Causey" ken@kencausey.com wrote:
Perhaps you've forgotten or didn't notice but I tried to resign as the Box-Admins Team Leader more than a year ago:
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-January/143901.h...
Since that time I have simply done what I felt was necessary to maintain the status quo. I have neither the time nor interest in making large changes to our hosting infrastructure.
The reality is that I'm an OK system administrator but a terrible manager, and I haven't found anyone willing and capable to take over or assist in any significant way. I suspect that we don't have very many people in this community with system administration experience and willingness and time to do the work.
As a community I think we really need to think hard about how we want to move forward regarding the services we use within the community. I've always been a strong proponent of 'eating our own dogfood' but we've done very little in the last year or two progressing and even significantly maintaining our own services infrastructure.
I suggest we strongly considered leveraging managed services in the vein of github, Google code, etc. I simply don't see that we have the will to manage these services ourselves in the immediate future.
I can continue as I have been for a while, but we can't continue like this forever. I just don't have the interest in doing this work anymore beyond what is absolutely necessary.
Ken Causey
Hi folks!
Just wanted to say that I am around to do a bit of this work.
regards, Göran
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