Hi Ned,

Do you have the sources somewhere? I may have to recompile for freebsd.

Thanks,

peter

Please try the VM at:

http://bike-nomad.com/squeak/Neds3.6g-3LinuxVM.zip or http://bike-nomad.com/squeak/linux-squeak-vm-3.6g-2.zip (older and bigger)

and see if it works for you (assuming you have an Intel-like box). Ned Konz

Hi,

cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/squeak login (empty password) cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/squeak co -r

ned-branch squeak Ok, I checked out the sources as above.

I tried to follow the build instructions, however the "configure" script "../platforms/unix/config/configure" is missing from the config directory.

...

It can't find the "vm.display-X11" plugin even after I tell it where one

is.

...

Ned it's missing the /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.6g-3/ directory and all the

files such as the one above.

So put the files into /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.6g-3

I've tried copying the "vm.display-X11" file into the directory but for some reason it always shows a file size of "0" bytes. Very strange. Would a file permission stop me, if so which one? I'm root... hmmm... weirdness...

Or use the -plugins /path/to/wherever/you/put/the/files

I tried that and it still gave the same message.

I'd prefer to build from source since that seems to be the route to continued upgrade successes.

Thanks for your help,

Peter William Lount

p.s. When I get this working I'll be able to put the new smalltalk.org site into gamma test on the production server. Thanks.

Hi,

I'm not sure if my memory is correct, but you need to run make once to

'make' the configure script if it doesn't exist. I think when getting a tar.gz from Ian's site this file is present but not when building from scratch. I've been trying to do that Mike, but it doesn't want to make. Sigh... how is this C project & tool chain organized?

Can anyone else build this package from the ned cvs sources? If so how?

Peter

From: "Michael Roberts" mike@mjr104.co.uk

I'm sorry about that. I didn't mean that to be obvious.

That's ok, being obvious is good. I'm much more of an expert with Smalltalk than the unix C tool chain.

you don't get this output?

Nope! I changed the makefile so that it used aclocal instead of aclocal-1.7. My FreeBSD system has aclocal-1.5 installed. I hope that's ok. If not please let me know and I'll upgrade it.

I'm afraid I don't know anything about freebsd. I think that is your

system type? Yes.

Hope this is a tad more useful but you may already have these installed.

Yes, much more usefull.

Here is the sequence that I'm now doing:

mkdir-p /localstorage/servers/squeak/ned_squeak cd /localstorage/servers/squeak/ned_squeak cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/squeak login cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/squeak co -r ned-branch squeak cd squeak/platforms/unix/config

I then edit the Makefile and change "aclocal-1.7" to "aclocal".

make cd /localstorage/servers/squeak/ned/ ./squeak/platforms/unix/config/configure

Here is the results of :

sensei# pwd /disk0e/localstorage/servers/neds_squeak/squeak sensei# ./platforms/unix/config/configure checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes /disk0e/localstorage/servers/neds_squeak/squeak/platforms/unix/config/missin g: Can't open /disk0e/localstorage/servers/neds_squeak/squeak/platforms/unix/config/missin g: No such file or directory configure: WARNING: `missing' script is too old or missing checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... no checking for nawk... nawk checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking sanity of VMMaker src directory... bad missing dir: /disk0e/localstorage/servers/neds_squeak/squeak/src

Ok, it builds the configure script with the down graded aclocal, but now it reports that two files/directories are missing:

../squeak/platforms/unix/config/missing: and /disk0e/localstorage/servers/neds_squeak/squeak/src

It looks like the ../squeak/src isn't being downloaded from the cvs server.

As for the other missing "../config/missing" file/directory could it be because of the older "aclocal" program?

FreeBSD and Smalltalk.org It sure would be nice to have a build script of the cutting edge unix port that works with FreeBSD. This would enable me to keep Smalltalk.org's new development site upto date easily. I'd rather focus on building a cool smalltalk.org web site application that muck around with C tool chains... For the current smalltalk.org development demo please see: http://dev.smalltalk.org/zokudev. Your support is greatly appreciated.

FreeBSD has a squeak3 (version 3.5_2) port. Here are some links including the current cvs for it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/lang/squeak3/pkg-descr http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/lang/squeak3 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/lang/squeak3/

Actually it might be a good idea to update the FreeBSD port aswell. I've included the FreeBSD port maintainer in this email and sent him a request as well.

I'd like to help with the unix vm in anyway that I can aswell. I know C fairly well, Smalltalk very very well, and the C tool chain not as well as needed, but I'm willing to upgrade my skills to get this working.

Thanks again,

Peter William Lount, Smalltalk.org

I've posted a complete source tarball of Ned's branch of CVS plus the VMMaker generated files plus the configure scripts pre-built. It's linked on DownloadForUnix, and it's also available at:

http://bike-nomad.com/squeak/uploads

Now you can extract, make a build directory, run configure, and run "make install". I have tested it and it runs 3.7 images just fine.

-Lex

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 31, 2004 at 08:17:04AM -0800, Peter William Lount wrote:

Here is the sequence that I'm now doing:

Here is the results of :

sensei# pwd /disk0e/localstorage/servers/neds_squeak/squeak sensei# ./platforms/unix/config/configure checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes /disk0e/localstorage/servers/neds_squeak/squeak/platforms/unix/config/missin g: Can't open /disk0e/localstorage/servers/neds_squeak/squeak/platforms/unix/config/missin g: No such file or directory configure: WARNING: `missing' script is too old or missing checking for gawk... no checking for mawk... no checking for nawk... nawk checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking sanity of VMMaker src directory... bad missing dir: /disk0e/localstorage/servers/neds_squeak/squeak/src

Ok, it builds the configure script with the down graded aclocal, but now it reports that two files/directories are missing:

../squeak/platforms/unix/config/missing:

I'm not sure what this is but I get that warning too

and /disk0e/localstorage/servers/neds_squeak/squeak/src

It looks like the ../squeak/src isn't being downloaded from the cvs server.

ah no. this is the next stage.

You need to use an existing Squeak system to create the src directory. This is the bootstrap, if that is the right phrase, for making the VM.

* You need an existing VM that is going to work on your system * I tend to get a 3.6 version off Ian's site

http://www-sor.inria.fr/~piumarta/squeak/

so for me on Linux

wget http://www-sor.inria.fr/~piumarta/squeak/devel/dist/Squeak-3.6g-2.i686-pc-li... tar -xzvf Squeak-3.6g-2.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz

* and a suitable image. I use the latest 3.6 image

wget http://www-sor.inria.fr/~piumarta/squeak/devel/dist/Squeak-3.6g-5420.image.t... tar -xvzf Squeak-3.6g-5420.image.tar.gz

I don't want to install this VM as root because I don't want to modify my system so I'm just going to do this locally

cp Squeak-3.6g-2/usr/local/lib/squeak/Squeak3.6g-5420.image.gz . cp Squeak-3.6g-2/usr/local/lib/squeak/Squeak3.6g-5420.changes.gz . gunzip Squeak3.6g-5420.changes.gz Squeak3.6g-5420.image.gz

* you also need the sources file I already have these on my system, you probably do too, but for those reading who also need it

wget http://www-sor.inria.fr/~piumarta/squeak/unix/release/Squeak-3.sources.tar.g...

or link it from where ever it might be

ln -s ~mike/src/Squeak-3/usr/local/lib/squeak/SqueakV3.sources

* now fire up this existing squeak system + VM since I haven't installed the 3.6 VM as root I need to do

./Squeak-3.6g-2/i686-pc-linux-gnu/usr/local/lib/squeak/3.6g-2/squeak -plugins ./Squeak-3.6g-2/i686-pc-linux-gnu/usr/local/lib/squeak/3.6g-2 Squeak3.6g-5420.image

* Welcome to squeak etc * Check any update stream updates squeak flap -> load code updates

* then use SM to upgrade all the installed packages world menu -> open package loader

say yes to the new client then context menu -> upgrade all installed say yes to Monticello update

undeclared, blaah blaah.

* then use SM to install VMMaker select VMMaker -> install

add my initials

wait

* open VMMaker

world menu -> open -> VMMaker

* fix the path to platform code this happens to be /home/mike/tmp/squeak/platforms

* set the path to generated sources /home/mike/tmp/squeak/src

make sure you alt-s to save the changes to the initial one

* make all the plugins external i don't know much about plugins so you may need some more finesse here

* generate all wait

* save and quit * run configure again (might as well do this at the top level) mkdir build cd build ../squeak/platforms/unix/config/configure

* configure now completes

* build the vm make

hmm.. this dies on me with /home/mike/tmp/squeak/platforms/Cross/vm/sqVirtualMachine.c:314: undefined reference to `isArray'

ok. I've done this before! honestly! but this is clearly not working as I'm writing this email. That should get you further. I'll investigate and get back to you.

As for the other missing "../config/missing" file/directory could it be because of the older "aclocal" program?

doesn't seem to matter once you get the VMMaker src sorted out.

FreeBSD and Smalltalk.org It sure would be nice to have a build script of the cutting edge unix port that works with FreeBSD.

yes, a script would be great. It is something I have thought about in the past. We would need a shell script to download all the right bits first. You would then need a smalltalk script to drive VMMaker externally. As you can see it is quite involved and there are various morphic prompts that would get in the way of driving this without a UI. I'm not sure what people think about this? I think both VMMaker and SM have well developed models so I imagine this can be driven without morphic popping anything up? or maybe with some work?

I'll get back to you why I can't get the VM to build. Probably something I've done but I'm no expert here either!

Cheers Mike

On Wednesday 31 March 2004 1:30 am, Peter William Lount wrote:

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I'm not sure if my memory is correct, but you need to run make once to

'make' the configure script if it doesn't exist. I think when getting a tar.gz from Ian's site this file is present but not when building from scratch.

I've been trying to do that Mike, but it doesn't want to make.

In what way?

If you've got automake 1.8 installed, try either - downgrading to automake 1.7, or - installing automake 1.7 alongside and changing the Makefile to read

configure : .force ./mkacinc > acplugins.m4 aclocal-1.7 autoconf rm acplugins.m4

.force :

That is, force the use of aclocal-1.7 (which comes with automake-1.7)

Sigh... how is this C project & tool chain organized?

in platforms/unix/config: Makefile produces configure and makefile template using snippets in plugins and vm directories

in build directory: running ../platforms/unix/config/configure makes Makefiles running make makes everything

Can anyone else build this package from the ned cvs sources? If so how?

I think that Mike is pointing you in the right direction (that is, to run make in the config directory).

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"Peter" == Peter William Lount peter@ActiveInfo.CA writes:

Peter> Hi Ned, It can't find the "vm.display-X11" plugin even after I Peter> tell it where one is.

I had a similar problem with 3.6g-2 on FreeBSD. I had to install a libgcc_s.so in my LD_LIBRARY_PATH (that I got from a previous compilation of a former GCC) and everything went fine.

Sam