I remembered Andreas posting something here saying it was no longer needed. But what if I just upload packages that (1) add copies of these methods with the name spelled correctly to String and ByteString, (2) change the senders in MOFile and (old) XMLParser to use the new correctly spelled messages, (3) change the incorrectly spelled (old) XMLParser extension methods to just send the new, correctly spelled messages?
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 9:32 AM From: "Tobias Pape" Das.Linux@gmx.de To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org, monty monty2@programmer.net Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: System-monty.907.mcz
On 24.01.2017, at 14:16, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:55 PM, commits@source.squeak.org wrote:
Name: System-monty.907 Author: monty Time: 22 January 2017, 10:54:27.872661 am UUID: 96a2d0cb-8ed1-467d-9e62-24b719b285cc Ancestors: System-mt.906
Removed sends of the old XMLParser's applyLanguageInfomation: (sic) from MOFile that I don't believe is still needed (it's leadingChar-based)
Did we replace the leadingChar mechanism with something else?
not that I know. Monty?
- Bert -
So, back in 2009, Andreas proposed:
--------------------------- What I would propose to do here is to define that "leadingChar = 0" which currently means "Latin1 encoding, language neutral" is being redefined to "Unicode encoding, language neutral". What this does is that "Character value: 353" and "Unicode value: 353" become the same, if the environment is considered language neutral which by default it would be. ---------------------
In 2010, he pushed this into Squeak Trunk.
Then, in 2011, there was a conversation where Andreas stated:
------------------- On 1/8/2011 2:16 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: #leadingChar "In Squeak Character encoding, bits above 16r3FFFFF don't encode the character, but hold information about the language environment and the encoding which should be used to interpret the charCode. The background of which is Han unification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_unification)."
How's that as a method comment? Is it really "In Squeak... encoding..." or does this apply to unicode in general?
It is Squeak specific. Unicode does not have a leading char.
Cheers, - Andreas ---------------------
Maybe this later email was the one that you were interested in?
I can't find any mention in the commit list or other discussions where the leadingChar was dropped, but I'm not an expert in this space (just interested).
Thanks, cbc
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:02 AM, monty monty2@programmer.net wrote:
I remembered Andreas posting something here saying it was no longer needed. But what if I just upload packages that (1) add copies of these methods with the name spelled correctly to String and ByteString, (2) change the senders in MOFile and (old) XMLParser to use the new correctly spelled messages, (3) change the incorrectly spelled (old) XMLParser extension methods to just send the new, correctly spelled messages?
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 9:32 AM From: "Tobias Pape" Das.Linux@gmx.de To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" <squeak-dev@lists.
squeakfoundation.org>, monty monty2@programmer.net
Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: System-monty.907.mcz
On 24.01.2017, at 14:16, Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de wrote:
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:55 PM, commits@source.squeak.org wrote:
Name: System-monty.907 Author: monty Time: 22 January 2017, 10:54:27.872661 am UUID: 96a2d0cb-8ed1-467d-9e62-24b719b285cc Ancestors: System-mt.906
Removed sends of the old XMLParser's applyLanguageInfomation: (sic)
from MOFile that I don't believe is still needed (it's leadingChar-based)
Did we replace the leadingChar mechanism with something else?
not that I know. Monty?
- Bert -
The '09 mail is the one I remembered. I thought Unicode supported obsoleted this, but apparently not.
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 at 5:36 PM From: "Chris Cunningham" cunningham.cb@gmail.com To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: System-monty.907.mcz
So, back in 2009, Andreas proposed:
What I would propose to do here is to define that "leadingChar = 0" which currently means "Latin1 encoding, language neutral" is being redefined to "Unicode encoding, language neutral". What this does is that "Character value: 353" and "Unicode value: 353" become the same, if the environment is considered language neutral which by default it would be.
In 2010, he pushed this into Squeak Trunk.
Then, in 2011, there was a conversation where Andreas stated:
On 1/8/2011 2:16 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: #leadingChar "In Squeak Character encoding, bits above 16r3FFFFF don't encode the character, but hold information about the language environment and the encoding which should be used to interpret the charCode. The background of which is Han unification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_unification)."
How's that as a method comment? Is it really "In Squeak... encoding..." or does this apply to unicode in general?
It is Squeak specific. Unicode does not have a leading char.
Cheers,
- Andreas
Maybe this later email was the one that you were interested in?
I can't find any mention in the commit list or other discussions where the leadingChar was dropped, but I'm not an expert in this space (just interested).
Thanks, cbc
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:02 AM, monty <monty2@programmer.net[mailto:monty2@programmer.net]> wrote:I remembered Andreas posting something here saying it was no longer needed. But what if I just upload packages that (1) add copies of these methods with the name spelled correctly to String and ByteString, (2) change the senders in MOFile and (old) XMLParser to use the new correctly spelled messages, (3) change the incorrectly spelled (old) XMLParser extension methods to just send the new, correctly spelled messages?
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 9:32 AM From: "Tobias Pape" <Das.Linux@gmx.de[mailto:Das.Linux@gmx.de]> To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" <squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org[mailto:squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org]>, monty <monty2@programmer.net[mailto:monty2@programmer.net]> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] The Inbox: System-monty.907.mcz
On 24.01.2017, at 14:16, Bert Freudenberg <bert@freudenbergs.de[mailto:bert@freudenbergs.de]> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 4:55 PM, <commits@source.squeak.org[mailto:commits@source.squeak.org]> wrote:
Name: System-monty.907 Author: monty Time: 22 January 2017, 10:54:27.872661 am UUID: 96a2d0cb-8ed1-467d-9e62-24b719b285cc Ancestors: System-mt.906
Removed sends of the old XMLParser's applyLanguageInfomation: (sic) from MOFile that I don't believe is still needed (it's leadingChar-based)
Did we replace the leadingChar mechanism with something else?
not that I know. Monty?
- Bert -
squeak-dev@lists.squeakfoundation.org
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Chris Cunningham -
monty