Hi--
(From the 2008-03-19 Squeak board meeting minutes...)
Thanks to everyone who has been discussing the squeak.org website. It is our unanimous recommendation that Janko lead the web team, and continue coordinating work on the Squeak website. Our main concerns are that the site be "search engine friendly", and that content updates happen in a timely fashion. While we don't think a change in the site's infrastructure is strictly necessary to address those concerns, we like what Janko has done so far and appreciate the energy he has brought to the task.
We exhausted the hour we had for the meeting before addressing Brian Rice's request (about updating the content at the current site). Sorry about that, Brian. Speaking for myself, it looks like Janko's demo is far enough along that Brian might be able to make the updates there. I'm hoping that he and Janko can come to some agreement about this. As the Teams coordinator, I'm happy to help further that discussion.
Finally, the board agrees that the web team list is a better place than squeak-dev to discuss the website.
thanks!
-C
-- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist www.netjam.org Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
Dear Web team,
I'd like to thank the Squeak board for expressing so strong confidence on me and Aida community and I hope Squeakers will now accept our proposal to run Squeak website and improve it, both technically and their content.
I'll try my best that stated goals will be achieved and that the website will do the best to show a good image of Squeak to outside world on one side and a rich and up-to-date place for information for Squeak community on the other.
If you agree I would continue improving the demo to have a full functionality + new guarded Contact us as soon as possible. I'd very like to hear your comments and suggestions to make that site really good and complete before switching.
Best regards Janko
Craig Latta wrote:
Hi--
(From the 2008-03-19 Squeak board meeting minutes...) Thanks to everyone who has been discussing the squeak.org website.It is our unanimous recommendation that Janko lead the web team, and continue coordinating work on the Squeak website. Our main concerns are that the site be "search engine friendly", and that content updates happen in a timely fashion. While we don't think a change in the site's infrastructure is strictly necessary to address those concerns, we like what Janko has done so far and appreciate the energy he has brought to the task.
We exhausted the hour we had for the meeting before addressingBrian Rice's request (about updating the content at the current site). Sorry about that, Brian. Speaking for myself, it looks like Janko's demo is far enough along that Brian might be able to make the updates there. I'm hoping that he and Janko can come to some agreement about this. As the Teams coordinator, I'm happy to help further that discussion.
Finally, the board agrees that the web team list is a better placethan squeak-dev to discuss the website.
thanks!-C
-- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist www.netjam.org Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
Welcome aboard Janko! And thanks for all the work you've done showing Aida.
The most important job is making sure content is updated in a timely manner. There are dedicated people on the team - we just have little time to update the content, let alone fix lengthy pages. There's lots to do on the site to bring it up to date. But, I must say, that it's come a long way.
I want to state that I stand by my statement that I believe we should continue utilizing Smalltalk as the engine to the website. (I also want to point out that I didn't see that the SqF concluded that Aida should be utilized. I think that's up to us.) There are lots of great website engines that have the capabilities that would work just fine for our needs - easy to deploy and easy keep up to date (Mambo/Joomla comes to mind.) But, we are a special website. We represent a community of people that believe Smalltalk, and Squeak in particular, is a great development and deployment environment. The community's goals are the promotion and enhancement of Squeak, among many others. Utilizing another engine does not promote these goals, it detracts from it. I think it's a shame that we would not use Smalltalk in this endeavor, to show visitors as well as old-timers, that we walk the talk.
brad
Hi Brad,
Thank you for your warm welcome!
Yes, content is our main concern, that's why our "users" see and expect from us and that's what we need to provide them in a time we have and it is always short. Here comes also my idea to extend content maintenance duties to at least all teams, so that for instance a release team will be responsible to keep up-to-date the downloads section. Duty of web team will then be more a coordination and specially the new incentives to improve the website.
As you said, our website is a special one and to show a real Squeak strength we need to run it on Squeak. I think we all agree to that point. What we don't yet agree is a technology to use. And as you are all aware a "competition" is going right now. Well, so far so good, both contending communities will at the end have a better product, so I currently don't see a problem on that. And because I am part of of one side I'll also try to provide the best possible solution on our technology. For you to decide later, which way to go. I think that's most fair way to go.
Best regards JAnko
Brad Fuller wrote:
Welcome aboard Janko! And thanks for all the work you've done showing Aida.
The most important job is making sure content is updated in a timely manner. There are dedicated people on the team - we just have little time to update the content, let alone fix lengthy pages. There's lots to do on the site to bring it up to date. But, I must say, that it's come a long way.
I want to state that I stand by my statement that I believe we should continue utilizing Smalltalk as the engine to the website. (I also want to point out that I didn't see that the SqF concluded that Aida should be utilized. I think that's up to us.) There are lots of great website engines that have the capabilities that would work just fine for our needs - easy to deploy and easy keep up to date (Mambo/Joomla comes to mind.) But, we are a special website. We represent a community of people that believe Smalltalk, and Squeak in particular, is a great development and deployment environment. The community's goals are the promotion and enhancement of Squeak, among many others. Utilizing another engine does not promote these goals, it detracts from it. I think it's a shame that we would not use Smalltalk in this endeavor, to show visitors as well as old-timers, that we walk the talk.
brad _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
Congratulations Janko and welcome aboard!
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Craig Latta craig@netjam.org wrote:
Hi--
(From the 2008-03-19 Squeak board meeting minutes...) Thanks to everyone who has been discussing the squeak.org website.It is our unanimous recommendation that Janko lead the web team, and continue coordinating work on the Squeak website. Our main concerns are that the site be "search engine friendly", and that content updates happen in a timely fashion. While we don't think a change in the site's infrastructure is strictly necessary to address those concerns, we like what Janko has done so far and appreciate the energy he has brought to the task.
We exhausted the hour we had for the meeting before addressingBrian Rice's request (about updating the content at the current site). Sorry about that, Brian. Speaking for myself, it looks like Janko's demo is far enough along that Brian might be able to make the updates there. I'm hoping that he and Janko can come to some agreement about this. As the Teams coordinator, I'm happy to help further that discussion.
Finally, the board agrees that the web team list is a better placethan squeak-dev to discuss the website.
thanks!-C
-- Craig Latta improvisational musical informaticist www.netjam.org Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] _______________________________________________ Webteam mailing list Webteam@lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/webteam
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