I just completed a round of changes to squeak.org, which I'll upload tomorrow.
The homepage seems to be a Pandora's box I've opened. I see a collision about to happen where strong opinions meet in a space where there is no time. I want to say that there is time. The homepage went for a long time with no tending and now I feel people think they need to get their changes in exactly as they want them quick before it disappears again.
It's not about to disappear. And there is time. And your content will go on the site. And it will not be rendered exactly as you want it to be. I don't have a solution for inlining links at the moment. And I'm not sure I want one. I do have a strong distaste for links to Wikipedia. (Now that I think about it, there is a strong paradigm in people's mind that squeak.org should be a wiki. I don't see it that way.)
And please remember, I'm a volunteer. It's important to allow me to feel I own part of the process. I elect to own presentation and not content. Not entirely, but some. And there's value in this, because somebody needs to see the whole. People have been making comments that would warp the overall look of the site. And some comments show people haven't noticed their changes have already happened or if something they want already exits somewhere else on the site.
There's lots of time to figure these things out. A lot has improved in two weeks.
Thank You, Chris
squeak.org issues: image shouldn’t run as root resource links are to chriscunnington.com zip resources for faster download - use minified versions of files - get that 404 image (broken paper showing a code browser) out of my email Archive and install - check multi platform layouts (i.e. cell phone, tablet)
Hi, There is a number of sites that let you do cross browser testing.
At my work we have IE 8 and the site looks a little messed up.
Cheers, Karl
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Chris Cunnington websela@yahoo.com wrote:
I just completed a round of changes to squeak.org, which I'll upload tomorrow.
The homepage seems to be a Pandora's box I've opened. I see a collision about to happen where strong opinions meet in a space where there is no time. I want to say that there is time. The homepage went for a long time with no tending and now I feel people think they need to get their changes in exactly as they want them quick before it disappears again.
It's not about to disappear. And there is time. And your content will go on the site. And it will not be rendered exactly as you want it to be. I don't have a solution for inlining links at the moment. And I'm not sure I want one. I do have a strong distaste for links to Wikipedia. (Now that I think about it, there is a strong paradigm in people's mind that squeak.org should be a wiki. I don't see it that way.)
And please remember, I'm a volunteer. It's important to allow me to feel I own part of the process. I elect to own presentation and not content. Not entirely, but some. And there's value in this, because somebody needs to see the whole. People have been making comments that would warp the overall look of the site. And some comments show people haven't noticed their changes have already happened or if something they want already exits somewhere else on the site.
There's lots of time to figure these things out. A lot has improved in two weeks.
Thank You, Chris
squeak.org issues:
image shouldn't run as root
resource links are to chriscunnington.com
zip resources for faster download
use minified versions of files
get that 404 image (broken paper showing a code browser) out of my email Archive and install
check multi platform layouts (i.e. cell phone, tablet)
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On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:21 AM, karl ramberg karlramberg@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, There is a number of sites that let you do cross browser testing.
At my work we have IE 8 and the site looks a little messed up.
Cheers, Karl
Thank you very much. I'll look into that.
Chris
On 24-03-2014, at 7:01 AM, Chris Cunnington websela@yahoo.com wrote:
I just completed a round of changes to squeak.org, which I'll upload tomorrow.
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There's lots of time to figure these things out. A lot has improved in two weeks.
Thanks Chris. One of the things that we (using the royal we here, as in the The Mighty And Puissant Board) would really like to see as an interim measure would be having access online to the old content. The best way to do that which I can come up with is to ‘resurrect’ the old site files and have it pointed to from the new home page - perhaps repurposing the ‘archive’ link. This would keep all the old content available whilst the transition is .. in transition. Not to mention being a reminder of what needs transitioning.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Strange OpCodes: EFBI: Emulate Five-volt Battery Intermittently
On 25-03-2014, at 5:20 PM, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
The best way to do that which I can come up with is to ‘resurrect’ the old site files and have it pointed to from the new home page - perhaps repurposing the ‘archive’ link.
damn tpyos.
The *easiest* thing is to point to the archive.org snapshot at http://web.archive.org/web/20140228140440/http://www.squeak.org/
Sure, it’s not ‘live’ but it’s there, it’s free and it involves minimal work.
tim -- tim Rowledge; tim@rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim Useful Latin Phrases:- Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? = Is that a scroll in your toga, or are you just happy to see me?
On Mar 25, 2014, at 8:33 PM, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
On 25-03-2014, at 5:20 PM, tim Rowledge tim@rowledge.org wrote:
The best way to do that which I can come up with is to ‘resurrect’ the old site files and have it pointed to from the new home page - perhaps repurposing the ‘archive’ link.
damn tpyos.
The *easiest* thing is to point to the archive.org snapshot at http://web.archive.org/web/20140228140440/http://www.squeak.org/
Sure, it’s not ‘live’ but it’s there, it’s free and it involves minimal work.
No problem. I'll add it to the list of changes I'll make in a couple of days.
Chris
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