[Newbies] Re: Bugging out of Squeak

Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel at cobss.com
Wed Nov 15 17:53:59 UTC 2006

Hi Ken,

NP, will forward to the beginners list (hrm, how goes that saying:  
everybody can do this, isn't it so :)

> Also, do you really expect anyone to keep up with this?

Well, if I only could have just a simple reaction on every direct question  
to you, that would be great ;-)


You should know by now that I put all the bugs which I *myself* find  
[reproducable] onto mantis.

But I have no intention to do that for other people's findings.


Beginners, please read Ken's response below on how to add a bug report,  
then add a bug report, thank you.

On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:15:57 +0100, Ken you wrote:

> On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 17:56 +0100, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
>> IC.
>> But then he is correct, the text *must* include three dots "Quit ..."
>> because there is another step in that particular dialog.
>> Good find.
>> Release-team, please add the three dots to the world menu, thank you.
>> /Klaus
> Klaus,
> I don't mean to pick on you specifically, but this is a very handy
> example.  This is a very small thing but it is just the sort of thing
> which can (with multiple instances) lead to release team burn out.
> Also, do you really expect anyone to keep up with this?
> Please:
> 1.  Take the time to create a patch.
> 2.  Add a report to the bug system:  http://bugs.impara.de/
> Thank you,
> Ken
> P.S. In my opinion having the issue on Mantis provides the additional
> benefit that if there is some disagreement about the best solution to
> the issue it provides a forum in which to gather the discussion.
>> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:21:19 +0100, Ralph Johnson wrote:
>> >> 4 - I cannot reproduce the message you cite 'Quit without saving the
>> >> image', can you tell us precisely where and what you click and what  
>> kind
>> >> of widget is then talking to you.
>> >
>> > In the final 3.9 image, at the bottom of the world menu, there is a
>> > "Save and quit" option followed by a "Quit" option.  The "quit" option
>> > does what he says, it asks if you want to save before you quit, quit
>> > without saving, or cancel.  When you see "save and quit" followed by
>> > "quit", it is confusing to have "quit" ask you if you want to save.
>> >
>> > Squeak has been this way for a long time.
>> >
>> > -Ralph

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