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Today's Topics:
1. Re: squeak map problems (Norbert Hartl)
2. Manipulation of existing objects (Marcus Strehlow)
3. Re: Manipulation of existing objects (Enno Schwass)
4. Re: Manipulation of existing objects (Bert Freudenberg)
5. Re: Manipulation of existing objects (David Zmick)
6. Re: Manipulation of existing objects (David Mitchell)
7. Omnibrowser - columns resize? (itsme213)
8. Re: OBMultipleSelectionBrowser dragging methods
(David R?thlisberger)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:44:30 +0100
From: Norbert Hartl <norbert at hartl.name>
Subject: Re: [Newbies] squeak map problems
To: Miron Brezuleanu <mbrezu at gmail.com>
Cc: Squeak Newbies List <beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
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Hi,
please don't forget to reply to the list as well. These
discussions are valuable for others if they have the
chance to be archived.
On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 13:44 +0200, Miron Brezuleanu wrote:
> Hello,
>
> thanks for your reply - I have managed to download GLORP from
Universes.
>
The universe entry loads the package from my server not from squeakmap.
> SqueakMap still doesn't work on the image where I tried it first and
> neither on a *fresh* 3.10 gamma 7159 image with the 3.10 VM. It works
> on a fresh copy of Ramon Leon's image, though (taken from
> http://onsmalltalk.com/my-squeak-image/).
>
> The difference I can see between Ramon's image and the others is that
> on his image I can't update the squeakmap map, which I can do on the
> other variants. So maybe that image has an old and good url?
>
This only would make sense if Ramon's image would have a cached squeak-
map with Glorp version 0.4.129. Every other combination IMHO can't
work.
> I'm a beginner, sorry I can't provide more detailed (or meaningful)
information.
>
Hmmm, I changed the url in the package to point to a proper
destination.
I did a fresh install of a 3.9 image. I opened squeakmap and reloaded
the map. The map reflects my change I've done two hours ago. But the
install action seems to try to load from the old URL which still leads
to the login form. The URL which is now in the map is correct but the
install fails. I'll monitor this.
Norbert
> Thanks again,
>
> On Jan 6, 2008 1:01 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert at hartl.name> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 09:16 +0200, Miron Brezuleanu wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to download GLORP from SqueakMap and the contents of
the
> > > sar file are in fact a small html with a login form, not zipped
> > > content as Squeak seems to expect.
> > >
> > > I tried getting a new password from SqueakMap (why do I need an
> > > account to download something? - I thought accounts were used for
> > > publishing) and the "random one-time password" email I get has no
> > > actual password in it. :-)
> > >
> > > I am using the 3.10gamma.7159 image with the 3.10 VM, but I doubt
the
> > > issue is related to my local setup.
> > >
> > > What's going on?
> > >
> > Oh, that was my fault. Doing the last release I copied the URL for
> > download from an improper place. The URL you got is only valid if
> > you logged into my account :) I fixed it a few seconds ago.
> >
> > I hope it works now. Please drop me note if doesn't work. You can
> > get the package also from
> >
> > http://selfish.org/files/st/
> >
> > Norbert
> >
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 20:53:03 +0000
From: Marcus Strehlow <marcus.strehlow at gmail.com>
Subject: [Newbies] Manipulation of existing objects
To: beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org
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Hi all,
I am fairly new to Squeak, and so far I have figured out the syntax
and everything, I do understand the basics. However, I am stuck on one
particular thing - manipulation of objects that have been created, and
are now in a World. I think the easiest example of what I mean is by
the following. Assume for a moment I have created a simple
RectangleMorph in the World, in this case with a specific parameter,
the color. The code for this would work out as:
| rectangle |
rectangle := RectangleMorph new openInWorld.
rectangle color: Color white.
Now, that the object is created in the World, how do I change its
properties while it exists? How would one change the color of the
RectangleMorph in this example, while it is on screen? Since
everything is an object, and objects can receive messages, I do
believe this to be possible, correct?
Thanks for your help,
Marcus
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 22:05:45 +0100
From: Enno Schwass <onkelenno at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [Newbies] Manipulation of existing objects
To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions
about Squeak." <beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
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Hi
> | rectangle |
> rectangle := RectangleMorph new openInWorld.
> rectangle color: Color white.
>
> Now, that the object is created in the World, how do I change its
> properties while it exists? How would one change the color of the
> RectangleMorph in this example, while it is on screen? Since
> everything is an object, and objects can receive messages, I do
> believe this to be possible, correct?
Just send messages to your reference (rectangle).
You did this in line 2
rectangle color: Color white.
You can send other messages like
rectangle useRoundedCorners.
If you dont have a reference to your morph, open a workspace, select
in its menu
"create textual references to dropped morphs"
then drag and drop your morph into your workspace. Use the printed
reference to send messages to.
Hope this helps
Enno
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 22:19:47 +0100
From: Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
Subject: Re: [Newbies] Manipulation of existing objects
To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions
about Squeak." <beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
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On Jan 6, 2008, at 22:05 , Enno Schwass wrote:
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> Hi
>
>> | rectangle |
>> rectangle := RectangleMorph new openInWorld.
>> rectangle color: Color white.
>>
>> Now, that the object is created in the World, how do I change its
>> properties while it exists? How would one change the color of the
>> RectangleMorph in this example, while it is on screen? Since
>> everything is an object, and objects can receive messages, I do
>> believe this to be possible, correct?
>
> Just send messages to your reference (rectangle).
>
> You did this in line 2
>
> rectangle color: Color white.
>
> You can send other messages like
>
> rectangle useRoundedCorners.
>
> If you dont have a reference to your morph, open a workspace,
> select in its menu
>
> "create textual references to dropped morphs"
>
> then drag and drop your morph into your workspace. Use the printed
> reference to send messages to.
Actually, the usual way is to open an inspector on the object you
want to work with, and start sending messages to self.
- Bert -
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:16:18 -0600
From: "David Zmick" <dz0004455 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Newbies] Manipulation of existing objects
To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions
about Squeak." <beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
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ya, an inspector works, you can also use the halo to change some things
in
morphic
On Jan 6, 2008 3:19 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2008, at 22:05 , Enno Schwass wrote:
>
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> > Hi
> >
> >> | rectangle |
> >> rectangle := RectangleMorph new openInWorld.
> >> rectangle color: Color white.
> >>
> >> Now, that the object is created in the World, how do I change its
> >> properties while it exists? How would one change the color of the
> >> RectangleMorph in this example, while it is on screen? Since
> >> everything is an object, and objects can receive messages, I do
> >> believe this to be possible, correct?
> >
> > Just send messages to your reference (rectangle).
> >
> > You did this in line 2
> >
> > rectangle color: Color white.
> >
> > You can send other messages like
> >
> > rectangle useRoundedCorners.
> >
> > If you dont have a reference to your morph, open a workspace,
> > select in its menu
> >
> > "create textual references to dropped morphs"
> >
> > then drag and drop your morph into your workspace. Use the printed
> > reference to send messages to.
>
> Actually, the usual way is to open an inspector on the object you
> want to work with, and start sending messages to self.
>
> - Bert -
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 18:32:39 -0600
From: "David Mitchell" <david.mitchell at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Newbies] Manipulation of existing objects
To: "A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions
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And to get the inspector (if you didn't know), you can start with the
red menu halo, go to debug, and then choose inspect morph.
On Jan 6, 2008 5:16 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455 at gmail.com> wrote:
> ya, an inspector works, you can also use the halo to change some
things in
> morphic
> On Jan 6, 2008 3:19 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de >
wrote:
> > Actually, the usual way is to open an inspector on the object you
> > want to work with, and start sending messages to self.
> >
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:57:24 -0600
From: "itsme213" <itsme213 at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Newbies] Omnibrowser - columns resize?
To: beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org
Message-ID: <flsm29$sm1$1 at ger.gmane.org>
I can't seem to resize Omnibrowser columns, is it something subtle?
- Sophie
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:58:48 +0100
From: David R?thlisberger <squeak at c3com.ch>
Subject: Re: [Newbies] OBMultipleSelectionBrowser dragging methods
To: ch.l.ngre at online.de, "A friendly place to get answers to even
the
most basic questions about Squeak."
<beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
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>> playing with 3.10 beta #7159 I found that OBMultipleSelectionBrowser
>> does not allow methods to be dragged.
>
> I found Mantis, and saw that this is a known bug.
yes, exactly. It's also a fixed bug, you can get the fix by downloading
the newest
version of the OB-Enhancement package from Colin's Monticello
repository at
http://source.wiresong.ca/ob/.
David
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