[Newbies] status of the 'mvc' environment?

Mayuresh Kathe mayuresh at kathe.in
Sat Sep 6 14:13:04 UTC 2014

On 2014-09-06 17:56, David T. Lewis wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 09:09:29AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
>> hello,
>> i am returning to squeak after a gap of 14 years.
>> back then, i used to work only within the 'mvc' environment as morphic
>> hadn't taken off the way it has now.
>> i still prefer the simplicity and lightness of the 'mvc' environment.
>> at last use, the 'mvc' environment felt quite sluggish and crashed my
>> squeak session multiple times.
>> hope all is well!
>> ~mayuresh
> MVC worked well in Squeak up through version 3.8 of Squeak. In Squeak 
> 3.9
> it was broken, and it was not restored to a usable state until 
> recently.
> In a current Squeak image (version 4.5 or later) MVC should work well,
> although you will still find some problems. It should not be sluggish, 
> and
> it definitely should not crash your squeak session.
> I would suggest trying a recent Squeak image to see if it works well 
> enough
> for you. Otherwise, the Squeak 3.8 image is very good, and the small 
> image that Hannes mentioned is excellent if your interest is in MVC 
> itself.
> To enter MVC in Squeak from the toolbar on the top:
>   Projects -> New Project -> New MVCProject
> From the world menu:
>   World -> open -> mvc project
> If you do decide to use an up to date Squeak image, any fixes or 
> contributions
> that you can make to MVC will be very welcome on the squeak-dev mailing 
> list.
> Welcome back :-)

thanks for the warm welcome. :)

i last tried squeak on ubuntu 13.10 which packages 3.9, so i guess 
that's where the problem is.
about the 'mvc' image thing, long back, there used to be a way to shrink 
an image leaving in only 'mvc', does it still exist?


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