[Cryptography Team] ECC and/or NSA Suite B?

Matthew S. Hamrick mhamrick at cryptonomicon.net
Fri Nov 24 19:07:02 UTC 2006


Keep in mind, however, that products violate patent restrictions, not  
implementations. Otherwise OpenSSL would not be able to include IDEA,  
MDC2 or RC5.

With all the discussion of FIPS 140, I had assumed that most everyone  
on the list is working on government contracts. Otherwise, why bother  
with it?

The NSA negotiated a blanket US Federal Government deal for  
Certicom's patent portfolio for use in ECDSA, ECDH and ECMQV. So...  
if you're a federal government agency, you get to use these  
algorithms without having to pay Certicom anything extra. So... if  
part of what you're hoping to do is to create an ECC implementation  
that can be used by a federal agency, then you can do so without fear  
of the Certicom lawyers. Now... the moment the implementation gets  
used in a commercial product, then you've got issues.

On Nov 23, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Cerebus wrote:

> Is anyone working on Suite B stuff?
>
> Rijndael is there, but it probably should be subclassed as AES proper
> if only to lock down the blocksize to 128 bits and the keysize to the
> allowed 128 & 256 bits.
>
> SHA256 is there, but it doesn't extent to cover the rest of the SHA2
> family (SHA384 and SHA512).  SHA384 is part of Suite B.
>
> Is anyone working on ECDSA, ECDH & ECMQV?  (Well, given that ECMQV is
> more heavily patent-encumbered in the US, I can understand if it's
> left by the wayside).
>
> If not I might take a crack at a couple of pieces.
>
> -- Tim
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