[Cryptography Team] ECC and/or NSA Suite B?

Ron Teitelbaum Ron at USMedRec.com
Fri Nov 24 19:25:08 UTC 2006


I'm not sure I understand this since SUN released ECC to the public domain.
I'll get an opinion on it: 

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> 
> Keep in mind, however, that products violate patent restrictions, not
> implementations. Otherwise OpenSSL would not be able to include IDEA,
> MDC2 or RC5.
> 
> With all the discussion of FIPS 140, I had assumed that most everyone
> on the list is working on government contracts. Otherwise, why bother
> with it?
> 
> The NSA negotiated a blanket US Federal Government deal for
> Certicom's patent portfolio for use in ECDSA, ECDH and ECMQV. So...
> if you're a federal government agency, you get to use these
> algorithms without having to pay Certicom anything extra. So... if
> part of what you're hoping to do is to create an ECC implementation
> that can be used by a federal agency, then you can do so without fear
> of the Certicom lawyers. Now... the moment the implementation gets
> used in a commercial product, then you've got issues.
> 
> On Nov 23, 2006, at 10:24 PM, Cerebus wrote:
> 
> > Is anyone working on Suite B stuff?
> >
> > Rijndael is there, but it probably should be subclassed as AES proper
> > if only to lock down the blocksize to 128 bits and the keysize to the
> > allowed 128 & 256 bits.
> >
> > SHA256 is there, but it doesn't extent to cover the rest of the SHA2
> > family (SHA384 and SHA512).  SHA384 is part of Suite B.
> >
> > Is anyone working on ECDSA, ECDH & ECMQV?  (Well, given that ECMQV is
> > more heavily patent-encumbered in the US, I can understand if it's
> > left by the wayside).
> >
> > If not I might take a crack at a couple of pieces.
> >
> > -- Tim
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