[etoys-dev] remove the free-standing .gif?
Bert Freudenberg
bert at freudenbergs.de
Tue Sep 1 18:58:44 EDT 2009
On 02.09.2009, at 00:45, Scott Wallace wrote:
> On Aug 31, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Timothy Falconer wrote:
>> On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:26 AM, K. K. Subramaniam wrote:
>> On Friday 28 Aug 2009 4:18:17 am Scott Wallace wrote:
>>>> So... do people think the time has now come (in advance of final
>>>> shipment of this summer's release) to remove the .gif?
>>> +1.
>>>
>>> In file managers with preview, children often confuse the .gif
>>> file for the
>>> project.
>>
>> +1 ... when uploading projects to the website using a web browser
>> (which will become much more common), this can happen as well.
>
>
> A sticking point here continues to be the possibility that existing
> superswiki, superswiki2, and perhaps other project servers, might
> rely on the presence of the .gif, and might misbehave if they can't
> find it.
>
>
> The JIRA ticket for this issue is http://jira.immuexa.com/browse/SQ-315
> .
>
> A fileout recently uploaded to that ticket has the comment: "...
> succeeds in stopping creation of the gif, and also no longer sends
> the superSwikiServer (if any) the filename of that gif file that
> used to be created. SuperSwikiServers and other project servers will
> now need to start using the .png thumbnail embedded in the outer .pr
> file. Unfortunately, I don't know how to test the consequences this
> change would have for existing superSwikiServers, etc., so I look to
> others to help here."
>
>
> So, this is a call for help. Who among our readership uses, or
> knows about, superswikis?
>
> (1) It's important to check how existing superswikis contend with
> projects saved to them using an image that has the ticket's fileout
> loaded (thus *not* creating a .gif). Is there anyone out there who
> uses an active superswiki and who can test this? (What about the
> Etoys/Illinois mechanism for putting projects on their site -- do
> *they* rely on the .gif?)
>
> (2) At some point, someone needs to undertake modifications to
> superswiki code so that the thumbnail is extracted from the
> embedded .png file. I'm not certain how many different superswiki-
> like systems are in current use, nor who is the current maintainer
> of each. So please speak up, anyone who can clarify, test, code, or
> otherwise contribute.
>
>
> Without at least some testing for consequences with existing
> superswikis, I think we can't in good conscience stop creating
> the .gif thumbnail just yet...
My solution to the dilemma would be implementing
http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-134
- Bert -
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