[etoys-dev] How to get a nice EToys based development environment?

[Andreas Raab]

Simon Guest wrote:
> Am I unusual in wanting to do this?  Is there a better thing to do?

No you're not. I'd like to do the same. Unfortunately the Etoys image is 
so far behind at this point that it has become a serious hindrance for 
me. No Monticello, Shout, ToolBuilder, Closures etc. You name it. OTOH, 
Etoys has all the media activities that are broken in Squeak.

Here is a VHLQ (very high-level question): How do people feel about 
bringing Squeak.org and Etoys together again? Since the Etoys-haters 
left, there is both room as well as a need for a driving application. A 
merger with Etoys would give Squeak back its primary purpose for 
existence, would allow the Etoys community to benefit from improvements 
made at Squeak.org and allow of us to focus our efforts in trying to 
provide a unified artifact for personal dynamic media. We have an open 
development process that I think could work for such a project so that 
at the end of the day the Squeakland release may come with a special 
"skin" for the UI but where the basic system is a Squeak.org image right 
out of the box.

I'm not sure if we have the resources to do this quickly but I'd like at 
least to raise the question to see how people feel about it. Is this 
even option?

Cheers,
   - Andreas