[Release] 3.11 liaison change

Keith Hodges keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jul 2 16:55:01 UTC 2009


>
> Well, I certainly feel like having done my share here. My conclusion
> from doing it was that the process is wrong, too different from what
> people know in real software development, too complex, too weird, too
> many steps.
>
I dont know what you are talking about... this is closer to what people
do in normal development... out in the non squeak world they have a
thing called "make" Make defines tasks that are assembled together to
perform a build. Builds are preformed regularly together with automated
testing.

>>> Yes, you and Matthew did contribute, but except from you two nobody
>>> understood how. As you will remember I've tried several time to
>>> explain what I thought the contribution process is but it's way to
>>> complex for people to easily contribute. 
>> You explained it to people, I have seen you... so why do you say it is
>> too dificult now.
>
> I always felt it was too difficult. 
The whole point is to make it simpler, but since you havent seen it end
to end you think it is complicated. What is complicated about it...

I say again... you submit you fixes to mantis, and bob builds the image
and documents the changes for you.
> But I did not want to discourage others by saying so openly. It would
> not have been helpful and early on I hadn't seen enough to know
> whether this may work or not. But having seen the process for many
> months now, failing despite best attempts to document and publicize
> it, I feel it's time to move forward and try one of the processes that
> actually do work in commercial software development.
I do commercial software development too, and working to a moving target
doesnt work.

This is your last chance to apologise, for not discussing any of this
with me, before I quit

Keith


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