[Release] Re: 3.11 liaison change

[Andreas Raab]

Igor Stasenko wrote:
> Okay okay, i'm taking back my rants :)

Ah, come on, we all deserve our rants occasionally ;-) We just have to 
keep in mind that all of us want to move Squeak forward. We may have 
differences in the details but I think we can all agree on the 
overarching goal.

Cheers,
   - Andreas

> 2009/7/3 Klaus D. Witzel <klaus.witzel at cobss.com>:
>> On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:25:42 +0200, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>
>>> Some words about Mantis.
>>>
>>> Keith, Klaus, you are right that Maintis is useful tool for
>>> 1. identifying problem (by placing a ticket)
>>> 2. provide a possible fix (and discuss it in comments, whether the
>>> provided solution good or bad)
>>> 3. finally mark it as fixed or reject it, or forgot about it and let
>>> it rot there for years.
>>>
>>> but i see a little gap here between usual Squeak user & those who
>>> contribute to Mantis.
>>>
>>> There is no sense of continuous process/progress, because we don't
>>> have some form of digests, which could in compressed form,
>> 1] dial bugs.squeak.org
>> 2] go main view "view issues"
>> 3] click the "status" field and select, for example "testing"
>> 4] then submit; the list is long, page through it
>>
>> I'm quite sure that Keith' builder process could send/flood such reports to
>> you inbox, in such a way that you don't even have to move your a** around ;)
>>
>> What's the point Igor, that a tool like Mantis does not send you an email ?
>> then I could not care less (!)
>>
>>> simply & straighly announce about latest fixes which has been approved
>>> & going into the image.
>> Have you overlooked the new status values that Ken added to Mantis (or so)
>> on request of the release team?
>>
>>> That's why i think, for anyone who not using/reading/watching Mantis
>>> on a regular basis, its seems like nothing happens and we're stalling.
>> Yes "we" (in form of you) look stalled. Not going out and fetching the
>> information that exists is indistinguishable from stalling.
>>
>>> Its just goes from a common sense: how much time a developer should
>>> spend in order to stay in touch with Squeak?
>>> Should he go to the bug tracker each time and open each issue and read
>>> each comment to see if there any progress?
>> Sould the developer go to his inbox and read an email ? what are you telling
>> Igor ?
>>
>>
>> --
>> "If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it". Albert
>> Einstein
>>
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