[Release] Proposal

[Edgar J. De Cleene]

On 7/8/09 10:18 AM, "Keith Hodges" <keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:
>> 
>> On 7/8/09 5:51 AM, "Keith Hodges" <keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>> and you can leave the unloading until later.
>>>     
>> So we continue in the same point as two years ago.
>> Or we cooperate,
> Dear Edgar I have been inviting you to co-operate for over two years.
>>  or we do each own fork.
>> 
>> I have mine working ...
>>   
> Which is useful to you but not to anyone else. If you were to take your
> knowledge an put it in a place that it is useful to others too, that
> would be great. For example I attempted to take your knowledge on how to
> unload Nebraska and I added it to Sake/Packages.
> 
> Sake/Packages allows us to define clearly what works where, and what is
> needed to unload things from where.
> If you load Sake/Packages with Installer install: 'Packages' you can
> look for senders of #unload:
>> What part of hitting the load updates button for any squeaker could see his
>> number changes from nnnn to higher
> Why would any squeaker want to push the updates button and have
> something that they didn't want to happen happen? You cant just unload
> packages from someone's image using the updates button. Why not let the
> user choose what happens to their image?
>>  and some fixes and enhancement goes to
>> his/her image your disagree ?
>>   
> Totally disagree. We want to write down a clear specification and design
> of what the release is to look like and to deliver that deliverable. The
> updates button, puts everyones image into an uncertain state, and there
> is no going back.
> 
> Squeak is in such a mess that we need to take parts, break them and
> remake them. For example, removing RemoteString and replaceing changes
> and changesets is an engineering task, that needs to be planned
> implemented and executed. It is not possible using the updates button,
> so please lets just retire the updates button as a non starter.
> 
> I have never ever used the updates button before, and I don't see that
> it has any use, apart from potentially breaking an image.
> 
> Keith
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Well  you should do your own fork like me and let people use it or not.