[Seaside-dev] [Seaside] Package conventions & monticello versioning

Dale Henrichs dhenrich at vmware.com
Fri Feb 4 17:54:55 UTC 2011


Julian,

I don't know which dawn of time you are referring to, but the older 
versions of Monticello and the current versions of Squeak and GemStone 
use the convention:

   branch-<initials>.count

where the branch name includes the characters up to the last '-'. The 
author initials are inserted using the current author initials and any 
pharo-style branch information is ignored.

In Squeak4.2, you can create an mcz file of the form:

   package-<initials>.branch.count

but if you try to save a second version of a "branched" packaged, the 
'branch' is ignored and you are presented with the following pattern:

   package-<initials>.count

Soooo, if anyone is doing cross-platform development you are better off 
staying away from the pharo-specific conventions, because not many 
developers are in the habit of looking at the new name of the package 
that gets generated and the tools are definitely inconsistent.

Dale

On 02/04/2011 08:15 AM, Julian Fitzell wrote:
> The Squeak one should (have)... it's been built into MC since the dawn
> of time. As I said, though, it was never really well-known and got
> broken at some point by someone changing the code. It may be that I
> only pushed to have the fix included in Pharo and Squeak never
> followed suit. They should though - it's definitely not
> Pharo-specific.
>
> Julian
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Dale Henrichs<dhenrich at vmware.com>  wrote:
>> Just one minor point ... you are referring to Pharo's branch naming convention for Monticello ... The Squeak and GemStone tools don't follow that convention.
>>
>> Sigh....
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:34 AM, Julian Fitzell wrote:
>>
>>> Good point, Dale.
>>>
>>> The best option is probably to use Monticello's branch naming convention:
>>>
>>> <package>-<initials>.<branch>.<count>.mcz
>>>
>>> The MC UI will maintain all the dotted segments, incrementing the last
>>> segment (count) on each commit. It got broken for a while, but recent
>>> version of MC have it fixed again.
>>>
>>> Using this pattern means the tools will maintain the branch for you on
>>> each subsequent commit and the versions will still show up in the
>>> version list for the package.
>>>
>>> Julian
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Dale Henrichs<dhenrich at vmware.com>  wrote:
>>>> Avi,
>>>>
>>>> I am suspicious about using a '-' to separate the author name and issueXXX .... I don't recall the exact rules that Gofer/Monticello uses in interpreting mcz file names, but I think that using the '-' where you suggest will cause issueXXX to be interpreted as the author name ... also you need to include an integer count of some sort before the .mcz extension or you will get into even more trouble.
>>>>
>>>> I have had success over the years using the following pattern:
>>>>
>>>>   Seaside-Core.IssueXXX-<initials>.<count>.mcz
>>>>
>>>> This pattern will not be inadvertently interpreted as a Seaside-Core package by Gofer/Monticello and is very readable.
>>>>
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Avi Shefi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Assuming you are working on fixing several issues on the Seaside-Core package, what's the best way to work on issues&  patches using Monticello?
>>>> The best option I can think of is:
>>>> 1) do your work on the issue
>>>> 2) save it to a mcz file named: Seaside-Core-<initials>-issueXXX.mcz
>>>> 3) reload the original ancestor from which you started
>>>> 4) keep working on other issues without having the code of the previous fix inside the image
>>>>
>>>> This way, if you make multiple changes on the same package you will be able to send each one of them in a different file, without getting the code mixed-up along the fixes you submit.
>>>>
>>>> Is this the right way?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Avi.
>>>>
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