[Seaside] [ANN] Seaside Installer

Philippe Marschall philippe.marschall at gmail.com
Thu Aug 10 08:13:10 UTC 2006


2006/8/9, Jason Johnson <jbjohns at libsource.com>:
> Wow, I just installed the installer and seaside looks even more
> incredible then it did before.
> There was one question that was asked on the "HREF considered harmful"
> site, and Avi answered most of the questions but not this one which was
> something I was conserned about myself.
> One user asked about generating XML instead of HTML

Seaside produces (or should) XHTML which is XML.

> directly and then
> doing XSLT conversions to get to the final output.  Avi had a good
> answer for this, except for the situation where the client is actually a
> phone or something like this.  How is the best way to handle the
> situation when your client may be a normal web browser or it may end up
> being a phone or something?

I'd say it depends whether you want to do WML or HTML.

If you want to do HTML ideally a css for a different media type is enough.

For WML a way would be to make a WmlRenderer (look at WAHtmlCanvas and
WARenderCanvas and adopt it) and a WAWmlDocument similar
WAHtmlDocument. Then in your components override #rendererClass to
return your new renderer class.

> I had been writing, in my spare time, an apache module to convert XML
> into some other form based on some rules (like cacoon, but without the
> Java).  After seeing seaside, I have almost completely abandoned the
> idea.  The only thing that keeps it in the back of my mind is this
> question.
> Thanks,
> Jason
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> [mailto:seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] Im Auftrag von
> Michel Bany
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. August 2006 23:20
> An: The Squeak Enterprise Aubergines Server - general discussion.
> Betreff: Re: [Seaside] [ANN] Seaside Installer
> Pavel Krivanek a écrit :
> > I think that we should split Seaside package into two or three
> > packages and create something like Seaside-Loader (see
> > ShoreComponents) to be able to strictly detach Squeak-dependent stuff.
> > That will make porting to VW (and other platforms) more easy and it
> > will also help us to load this package into the kernel image.
> >
> Pavel,
> Squeak-dependent stuff is already completely detached in Seaside.
> The port to VW has become fairly easy with the 2.6b1 branch
> and is about 99% automated. So I do not quite understand what you
> have in mind with splitting Seaside into two or three packages.
> Could you elaborate ? What would those packages be ?
> > I may try to load the latest versions of this packages again and
> > report problematic code. Maybe Michel Bany should do the same.
> Here too, I do not understand. What exactly should I do ?
> Cheers,
> Michel.
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