[Seaside] Seaside, Traits, portability

stephane ducasse stephane.ducasse at free.fr
Tue May 1 08:31:05 UTC 2007

just a last remark:
	traits do not exist at run-time AT ALL. They are just structuring  
static elements.
	So this to me like saying that using MC is not good to run squeak  
	I do not really understand the problem that traits have. May be I'm  
too stupid to understand.
	especially since for ports the code can be without traits.


On 30 avr. 07, at 19:45, Avi Bryant wrote:

> On 4/29/07, Boris Popov <boris at deepcovelabs.com> wrote:
>> Why be so cynical? Different strokes for different folks. I've  
>> felt many
>> times that you couldn't care less about anyone not using squeak  
>> and it does
>> nothing but motivate me to unsubscribe from the list for good.
> Boris, please don't unsubscribe. I think you'll find the vast majority
> of people on this list care deeply about keeping Seaside portable
> across dialects - I would guess that at this point it's the largest
> portable Smalltalk codebase, and the largest cross-dialect community,
> and that's very important to me and to many others.
> For that reason and others, nobody who uses Seaside in production is
> seriously proposing that we make it depend on Traits - as far as I
> know, nobody uses Traits in production, period.  By all means, let's
> have an academic discussion about the costs and benefits of Traits,
> but let's do it with a very clear understanding that it is indeed
> academic, and *not* a proposal that's going to affect mainline Seaside
> any time even vaguely soon.
> Avi
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