[Seaside] Re: YUI

Sebastian Sastre ssastre at seaswork.com
Thu Nov 1 14:35:40 UTC 2007


	I remember one time I was interested in the results that the Dojo
Toolkit achieved. Now I see it's demos barely running well even with the
support from IBM they seems to get.

	I agree with Lukas and I'm experimenting that Prototype is a good
choice. Also remember that Prototipe is a product from a affine community, a
community that is technologically very near this one.


Sebastian Sastre

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
> [mailto:seaside-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] En nombre 
> de Lukas Renggli
> Enviado el: Jueves, 01 de Noviembre de 2007 08:04
> Para: Seaside - general discussion
> Asunto: Re: [Seaside] Re: YUI
> > From reading the blog entries on prototype, it looks like 
> the problem 
> > is that it exposes badly written code. Composable javascript should 
> > work within those prototype walls.
> It is indisputable that Prototypes extends the global 
> namespace and existing objects in ways that might conflict 
> with other libraries. I personally find it very well written, though.
> Prototype takes many ideas from Smalltalk (actually Ruby, but 
> 'taking an idea' is transitive). If that was not the case, 
> having the possibility to write something like the following 
> expression in Smalltalk
>     ((SUSelector new matching: 'div.hint')
>         select: [ :each | each element visible not ])
>         do: [ :each | each effect appear ]
> and automatically transform it to JavaScript
>     $$('div.hint').findAll(function(){return
> !$(arguments[0]).visible()}).each(function(){new
> Effect.Appear(arguments[0])})
> would be much harder.
> Ideally we had a library that was designed for Seaside and Smalltalk.
> In practice resources are missing to do that. The amount of 
> mails discussion about what could be done represents in no 
> way what is actually done. Prototype is a reasonable match in 
> that sense.
> Cheers,
> Lukas
> --
> Lukas Renggli
> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
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