[Seaside] Re: Squeak / Gemstone / VisualWorks with Seaside

Dale Henrichs dale.henrichs at gemstone.com
Mon Oct 22 23:18:35 UTC 2007


If your eventual deployment environment is GemStone/S you _can_ choose 
to develop entirely in GemStone ... the GemStone tool set _will_ be more 
limited than you can get in either Squeak or VW, especially in the 
beginning, but as time goes by I assume that we (and our users) will 
continue to improve the tools.

At the moment, I think that I would prefer to develop in Squeak and 
deploy in GemStone because of the close coupling you get with 
Monticello. It is very reasonable to think that one would develop/test 
along in Squeak, deploy to GemStone (sandbox environment) and go through 
a develop/test cycle in GemStone, saving changes back to Squeak via 
Monticello.

If it was easy to move code back and forth to VW, then I would let 
religion be my guide:) Seriously, though, I don't have enough experience 
using the current set of VW tools (I lived in VW during the late 80's to 
mid 90's, but the tools have changed a lot since then) to make that 
judgement call.

Dale

 itsme213 wrote:

>That's encouraging.
>
>Please let me know if this reasoning is flawed ... If my eventual deployment 
>will be on Gemstone/S (rather than Squeak), I will need to develop in a 
>different environment than deployment anyway, so I might as well choose VW 
>over Squeak.
>
>Also (and this may be a bit religious, not my intention ...) is VW a better 
>development environment than Squeak (costs aside) ?
>
>Thanks.
>
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>"Conrad Taylor" <conradwt at gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:7317d7610710221504u6b06599ej5108835d7bd76a65 at mail.gmail.com...
>Hi, it should be a straight forward process if you do not use anything 
>specific to VW that doesn't exist in deployment environment.  Also, you'll 
>need to file-out your code so that you can imported into the deployment 
>platform.  I forget the exact package name that's used for the package but 
>I'll post later if no one posts that information.  Lastly, there may be 
>other tid-bits in this regard but those are the two that comes to mind.
>
>Good luck,
>
>-Conrad
>
>
>On 10/22/07, itsme213 <itsme213 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>VW appears to be quite polished and robust for development work ... Is any
>developing a Seaside app with VW to deploy on Squeak or Gemstone/S? How easy
>is it to keep from getting tied up in platform-specifics, and how hard to
>port? Does it even make sense to consider this path?
>
>Thanks
>
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