[Seaside] Re: Starting out

Michael Atkisson michael_atkisson at comcast.net
Wed Dec 17 21:14:32 UTC 2008

> Imagine you are a business programmer, although you have heard of this
> exciting new environment called Seaside. 
> You would like to create forms that operate like the ones you do at work
> such as in Oracle Forms.  On further investigation, perhaps you manage
> to make it through the tutorials. But when you go to do something real,
> behold you discover that some of the most basic components such 
> displaying a datagrid from rows in a table are missing.  Something that 
> you probablydo on at least 50% of your forms in Oracle
> Next you read the mailing list to see if anyone has a solution to the
> problem. You discover that some people are decidely against putting 
> anything like that in the core because of their purist inclinations.
> Others are simply say to go learn one of the javascript libraries
> and do it that way. This is also a dilema as you don't know which one
> would be good and this stuff isn't all that understandable to you.
> You don't know much about html, javascript, css, ajax, etc. and you 
> probably don't want to spend a year figuring it all out.
> All you want to do is solve problems like the ones you have at work in
> as straightforward a way as possible.
> How much further do you think that person is likely to go?

My Impression of the responses so far.

Someone might work on these issues some day.  
We have either no interest or they are not important enough
to address by the people who actually do the programming
of the seaside system.
We don't care if the system is useful to normal business
programmer types, we only care that it is stable.
Yes, you do have to be a rocket scientist to work on seaside!
Please start your education immediately and come back
when you are ready.

PS: On hand holding issue.  I have never submitted a programming
issue to Oracle yet.  I do have to read their documentation 

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