[Seaside] object databases and other questions of architecture

Frank Mueller frank at mweb.de
Thu Mar 27 13:27:18 UTC 2008

Hi Sean,

I've developed an ODBMS named Smalltalk Object Store for Squeak, some information can be found
here: http://wiki.tideland.biz/wiki/TidelandSmalltalkObjectStore. The only problem is that I don't
maintain it anymore, at least right now.

If you're interested I would leave it to you - or anyone else - for future development and may act
as a backup and information source.

bw mue

> Hi all,
> I am looking for a new and better set of tools to use to build the
> next version of the software we use to run our e-commerce site
> both front and back ends. There is a lot about Seaside that gets my
> imagination running with how easy it would make certain
> things we have thought about doing that are just plain hard to do with
> most tools. Our urrent system is mysql 5, nginx, memcached
> and mod-perl based web-applications and a variety of scripts that get
> run via cron for day to day housekeeping.
> I'm sick of fighting with ORMs and ending up stuck in a land that is
> neither OO nor Relational so a key point of this is
> to ditch the mysql and find a nice stable object database. From what
> I've seen when looking at the options available for
> use with Seaside there is magma, goods and webstone/s. Am I missing
> anything in that list? Can anyone give me
> feedback on any of those from the standpoint of... our relational
> database would immediately map into something in
> the area of at least 12 million object and depending on design upwards
> of 20 million with at least 250,000 being added
> monthly. As object databases get much less use than relational ones,
> I'm quite a bit more nervous about this part of
> the process than I would be if it was something like: mysql or postgres.
> Currently we run everything off of debian boxes. Are there issues with
> the type of memory use etc that we would looking
> at with running on debian ( or any other linux ) in terms of stability
> etc? I seem to remember seeing something about
> squeak having issues with larger image sizes. Would a different VM be
> better suited for the task I have at hand?
> I really like Seaside and think we could do great things with it but I
> have quite step learning curve pretty much across
> the board here so any help with narrowing down architecture questions
> some is greatly appreciated.
> -Sean-

** Frank Mueller / Oldenburg / Germany
** http://frank.mweb.de and http://mue.tideland.biz

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