[Seaside] the elevator pitch for seaside

Todd Blanchard tblanchard at mac.com
Tue May 6 21:44:04 UTC 2008


For me - the killer feature is "live hot debugging".  That whole - try  
it again in the debugger button is far and away the coolest thing.

I'm missing that quite a lot as I'm stuck in Rails Hell for the next  
couple months.


On May 3, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Avi Bryant wrote:

> Agreed.  In fact, these days I rarely even mention flow.  Instead, I  
> would say a key elevator pitch is "callbacks, not field names".
>
> Avi
>
> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> I try to avoid mentioning continuations at all (with the exception of
> a scientific talk).
>
> Continuations don't add any value to a presentation, make you look
> geeky and at best scare people off. Even developers don't need to know
> about that internal implementation detail. Only show how easy it is to
> define flow.
>
> The same for persistency. This is something commercial vendors worry  
> about.
>
> Lukas
>
> On 5/3/08, Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn at stonehenge.com> wrote:
> >
> >  >From http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/library/post/the-elevator-pitch-for-seaside.html
> >
> >    But I think I've come up with a good elevator pitch for "why  
> Seaside and
> >    not [insert other framework here]", that centers on three key  
> items:
> >    abstracted control flows, live debugging, and persistence  
> without ORMs.
> >
> >  If you have any input, leave it on the blog, or followup here.   
> I'm presenting
> >  my talk in seven hours, and am trying to do some last minute  
> refinement.
> >
> >  --
> >
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