[Seaside] Comparison by example

H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel at gmail.com
Thu Jun 30 13:49:22 UTC 2011


Yes, thank you for this suggestion. I like this idea.

I think the Multiuser todo example I put a sketch for the requirements at

may be extended to be a bug tracker.
This would mean to add a point 6 (adding states to the todo items) and
maybe 7 (additional reports)

Of course that app outlined there if fairly generic and by renaming
the domain objects.

Feel free to go to http://www.edupad.ch/tB6G15hqCx  and to choose a
color and add your suggestion.

If we have an example which may be realized in stages then the
implementation burden is lower .....

Currently we have point 1 realized for Seaside.....
And Janko is working on implementing it for Aida.


On 6/30/11, David Zmick <dpzmick at gmail.com> wrote:
> Idea for a project: a simple bug tracker.
> On Jun 23, 2011 6:22 PM, "Germán Arduino" <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2011/6/23 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek at eranova.si>:
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I'm opening a new thread with idea by Johan and Hannes to write an
>>> example app on all three web frameworks. Here is a copy of that thread
>>> and first Hannes proposal:
>>> Johan: For comparing, it would be really good to have the same
>>> application written in the three frameworks by experts and have the
>>> experts compare them. Hey, if I find the time (oeps) I would even love
>>> to help out on that one.
>>> Janko: Agreed! And I'm hardly waiting for someone to come out with an
>>> idea, what to build for such comparison. I have one, but you will for
>>> sure declare me biased again .. :) A so called real-time web example: a
>>> multi-user chat. As that one on GMail, for instance. Another would be a
>>> basic CRUD example, which is so common pattern, filling that 90% of
>>> cases, to show, how the frameworks cover the people's most basic needs.
>> Seems that I arrived some minutes later to this new thread, but in any
> case
>> I'm copying here the same things I wrote in the other thread:
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Build a real world application to compare it's also a good idea.
>> I my own experience, with my own customers, the far more asked
>> solution is allways related with different sort of ERP's.
>> A good step in this way in my opinion is the work of the guys of
>> SmallPOS (http://www.squeaksource.com/SmallPOS/)
>> Things as invoices, stock, current accounts, billing, bank, finances,
>> production chain, etc, with plenty of relationship between
>> data (aka objects) and lot of different sort of forms (as
>> master-detail, grids, paging, search over the grids, filtering, etc).
>> The capability of supply to the final user the facility of build it's
>> own reports is also a thing I miss from the old Visual FoxPro
>> frameworks I used to work with in the past. One of the best I knew is
>> this one: http://www.promatrix.com/index.php were the
>> developer can find not only a framework else a good number to
>> "generators" (Automatic building of common things in a standardized
>> way). This is (was?) the main goal of a tool that I started with a
>> friend of me several years ago that I so called SDA (Smalltalk
>> Developer Assistant). As usual, the need of pay the bills go against
>> of the free time to invest in these sort of projects.
>> Just my 2 cents.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Germán.
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