Hi Paul.

I'm wondering what you mean when you say repository -
A local set of files that hold a set of modules?

The reason I'm asking is that Hans-Martin started his work on the code
management problem from the other side, making a server for modules and
their metadata (bugs and such). IIUC, the natural question is whether
the two are as complementary as they seem (or is there some
design/intent mismatch)?

Thanks.

Daniel

Paul McDonough <wnchips at yahoo.com> wrote:
> StSq is a moniker applied to a number of loosely
> connected projects; thus, I can only speak of one of
> the streams of development.  The thingie currently
> known as "ModSqueak" is taking a breather, but will be
> back soon.  The two primary developers of ModSqueak
> have been pulled aside by other projects for the past
> month or two, and thus (essentially) unable to Squeak.
> 
> In its most recent build, ModSqueak had gotten a
> working set of scoped browsers to browse/modify Squeak
> based upon a declarative/modular/call-it-what-you-will
> view of Smalltalk (the clearest explanation of what
> the heck I mean by that is unlikely to come from me,
> but I'll gladly refer you to Allen Wirfs-Brock's
> papers on the topic, which (iirc) can be accessed via
> smalltalksystems.com).  For the most part, those
> browsers were working, and in fact I was able to edit
> code which was *not* compiled into the image, as well
> as the normal case.  Versioning and loading from a
> repository also works, although only in extremely
> rudimentary fashion, and with many different ways to
> mess it up.
> 
> All in all, it was nearly test-pilot ready, but not
> nearly what I'd call an "alpha".  ModSqueak holds
> itself together based upon the integrity/consistency
> of the modules, and one little bug in the wrong place
> can have alarming ripple effects.  Thus it really does
> need to achieve a higher level of robustness than most
> early-release Squeak, as there's very little more
> annoying than thinking your IDE is tracking/saving
> your work when in fact it's doing nothing of the kind
> (speaking from experience, particularly annoying
> experience to be exact!).
> 
> Bottom line:  ModSqueak is not dead, it's just
> resting.  I expect serious(ish) work to resume some
> time in September.  Meanwhile, feel free to drop me a
> line if there're questions.  [No, unfortunately, I
> don't have access to the code at the moment.]
> 
> Paul
> 
> --- Jeff Schilling <jeff.schilling at s1.com> wrote:
> > Speaking of...
> > 
> > Does anyone have an update on the StSq efforts?
> > 
> > I haven't seen any traffic on either list since
> > June.
> > 
> > -jeff
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> >
> [mailto:squeak-dev-admin at lists.squeakfoundation.org]On
> > Behalf Of Karl
> > Ramberg
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:27 AM
> > To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > Subject: Re: Windows maker
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Timothy Reaves wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:16:33 -0400
> > > Doug Way <dway at riskmetrics.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tuesday, August 7, 2001, at 08:31 PM, Timothy
> > Reaves wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >     Is there a GUI toolkit for Squeak?  Is
> > Morphic the proper choice
> > > > > for a forms-based appliation?
> > > >
> > > > This is covered in the FAQ.  There are a few GUI
> > toolkits available
> > > > (mostly Morphic based)... see the GUI Building
> > Tools item on the Squeak
> > > > FAQ at
> > http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/squeakFaq .
> > > >
> > >
> > >         I should have been a little more verbose.
> > >
> > >         I saw that page in the FAQ, but most of
> > what is there is very
> > weak, and no longer seems to be under development. 
> > They look to be things
> > that people have started, then ran out of steam.  I
> > know how that goes.  And
> > for the FAQ to use the term 'ala WindowsMaker' is a
> > bit too much! ;)
> > >
> > >         The XML UI Spec Builder looks promising. 
> > There is a GUI builder
> > for Java that simply lets you design the GUI via
> > drag-and-drop, use a
> > property editor to set properties & callbacks, then
> > it writes it out to an
> > XML file.  At run time, a small class reads the XML
> > tree and builds the
> > window.  I can't determine exaclty how XML UI Spec
> > Builder is inteded to be
> > used, as the documentation is non-existent.  Is it
> > still under development?
> > Does it allow DnD UI design?
> > >
> > >         Thanks!
> > Check out the stable squeak project at
> > squeakfoundation.org.
> > As far as I remember it has some xml gui stuff.
> > Karl
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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